Josephus,

As a Manichaean, you can't be expected to understand nuance: I think Plantagenet was suggesting, not so much that Trumpf CAUSED the virus, but bungled a coordinated national US response to it.

Of course, coordinating a national response in the US, with its fifty-plus state jurisdictions and vast multitude of county parochialisms, would be more difficult than the work which Morrison has overseen here, and which state governments were all aware was so vital, to overcome this virus.

Well, we've done it (and NZ too) and the US hasn't even begun the process properly. After all, with around 140,000 new cases each day, a million this week, how could the US health system even begin to track and trace cases, as health professionals have done here ? Perhaps there is some efficiency in our systems which is absent in the US, something like, say, a Medicare system. Something like Obama tried to implement.

Which is why I suspect that our health system, and Obama's intended one, have nothing in common with communist systems, as in the old Soviet Union, where - to paraphrase - personnel pretended to work and patients pretended to get better.

As a progressive conservative, I would recommend our system to the world: if something works, leave it alone. If it needs improvement, then improve it with caution.

Meanwhile, in the US, with their ramshackle systems, we have had nearly a quarter of a million Covid deaths, mostly thanks to incompetence at the top ......

Joe

One has at some point to separate the buffoon from his achievements:

"For more than 70 million Americans, Donald Trump represents hope. He won the 2016 election against a sure-bet Democrat with a political pedigree and the global media on her side. He won the second-biggest popular vote in US electoral history last week despite a four-year onslaught by the political media elite. On present numbers, he has increased the Republican share of Hispanic voters and improved his standing among African-Americans. Trump has forever changed American politics and the breadth of his achievements impresses where his style, and his handling of the pandemic fail.

The 45th US president restored law and order by defending police against militant racists and nominating black-letter lawyers to the Supreme Court. He chipped away at left-wing orthodoxy in the public service and on campus by testing the limits of free speech. He demanded equal treatment for America in foreign policy by telling free-riding allies to boost their military spending and pay their fair share for defence. He called the bluff of bully states and withdrew US money from the Paris Agreement, which rewards totalitarian regimes with Western workers’ money. He protected Americans from illiberal enemies by closing the border to terrorist-producing states. He defended Israel by negotiating the most celebrated Middle East peace deal in recent history. He encouraged the revival of American manufacturing in towns gripped by unemployment and sliding into the despair of intergenerational opioid addiction. And he worked to restore the democratic norms established by the founding fathers. Trump stood for the millions of Americans that globalists treat like an unpleasant aftertaste of the industrial era. For all of that, the politically correct will forever regard him as an enemy."

Similar voter contests arose with the Bush v Gore Election in 2000.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/11/bush-v-gore-and-the-2000-election-never-ended.html

Shonkyminister,

Your reference to the buffoon made your above post look promising, unfortunately it was all downhill from there on.

Proud Boy Jose'

Get over it, the Fourth Reich didn't last a thousand years only four. The Fuhrer (Trump) has retreated to his bunker (white house), he is calling on imaginary armies (republican voters) to save the Reich (America) from the advancing communists (Biden and Harris). All the while issuing executive orders (tweets) condemning the disloyal defeatists (Mark Esper). Gun laws are rather lax in the United States, all sorts of nutters can have a hand gun.

"As a progressive conservative, I would recommend our system to the world: if something works, leave it alone. If it needs improvement, then improve it with caution."

Hi Joe,

I tag you as a moderate progressive, radical in the Australian sense of the word radical, radical on some issues, conservative on others. The vast majority of Australian's are that way. Take an historical issues like "woman's suffrage", at one time it was the conservative view, that it was entirely appropriate that only men should vote, that was the social norm and accepted by the majority. Along came radical women and they started to demand voting rights for women, an extremely radical notion. At some point the radical concept progressed, becoming socially acceptable, and no longer an extreme radical idea, until it become so accepted that its no longer an issue.

Josepuss

You fail to understand Trump ducking America's worst health crisis, while Trump plays GOLF.

What part of:

"Trump through boosting COVID by denying its seriousness, thereby hobbling the US economy."

can't you understand?