Cumberland,

If you don't think preventing AGW and its consequential climate change is relevant then just ignore it and keep your fingers crossed that it never affects you.

And let people like me to get on with the job of finding solutions to what could be an extinction event for humankind.

Climate change denialists is a dishonest term, and you know it, since no-one has ever denied that the climate changes. That's not what's in issue.

Stop pretending to care about "humankind". You regard them as a plague, remember?

And stop pretending to know or care about "science". The very fact that you can't even begin to express yourself on the topic without vomiting anger, hatred and misanthropy says it all. Science does not supply value judgments and policy requires them, so you're openly admitting that you don't understand what you're talking about. And it is not a requirement of science that I must just swallow down your assumptions and beliefs as a precondition to entering into the disucssion. You obviously don't understand what science means.

Your pretension to be interested in a discussion about science is false. What you're interested in is pushing your circular superstitious anti-human fascist cult , that's all.

You call yourself an environmental sociologist, but you don't even know what the relevant data set is, do you? If so, prove it. If not, admit it.

Your pretended concerns for "the environment" is as phony as your pretended concern for humankind. What you're interested in is policy i.e. POLICING everyone into obeying your opinions, which you cannot rationally defend and I'll prove it.

I've proved it so far by proving that you can't discuss the issue without circularity and ad hominem.

What you've got is not science, it's religion

Just to get back to reality, and away from hysteria, what might indicate evidence of global warming, and what might be partial remedies which - I'm sure - we can all agree on ?

Temperature seems to have increased by 1.5 degrees or so in 200 years. In SA, our maximum ever was recorded last year, at half a degree above the Black Summer measurement for 1939.

Sea-level seems to have risen an inch or so in a century.

Wow.

Can there be anything that we can do to avoid dreadful catastrophe ?

* Plant billions of trees.

* Switch to renewables. In SA, solar power now provides all of household needs. Just wait until we really get into wind power as well :)

* Turn down your AC in cool months, say, to 17-18 degrees; and turn it up in warmer months, say, to 23-24 degrees. Get used to it, our ancestors did. Ignore your snowflake kids.

* Build smaller cars and put them on electricity.

* Sequester carbon, in the soil if possible.

I think we'll be okay.

Joe

Just to get back to reality, and away from hysteria, what might indicate evidence of global warming, and what might be partial remedies which - I'm sure - we can all agree on ?

Temperature seems to have increased by 1.5 degrees or so in 200 years. In SA, our maximum ever was recorded last year, at half a degree above the Black Summer measurement for 1939.

Sea-level seems to have risen an inch or so in a century.

Wow.

Can there be anything that we can do to avoid dreadful catastrophe ?

Plant billions of trees.

Switch to renewables. In SA, solar power now provides all of household needs. Just wait until we really get into wind power as well :)

Turn down your AC in cool months, say, to 17-18 degrees; and turn it up in warmer months, say, to 23-24 degrees. Get used to it, our ancestors did.

Build smaller cars and put them on electricity.

Sequester carbon, in the soil if possible.

I think we'll be okay.

Jo

How can you suggest remedies if you don't even know what the relevant data set is?

What is it?

If you don't know, ask Mr Opinion. He's an "environmental sociologist". So he'll know, for sure.

Won't you, Mr Opinion?

Come on then. Answer the question. What's the relevant data set?

If you don't know what it is, you admit you are a clueless babbler, okay? Your failure to reply, or making any other reply whatsoever, constitutes your IRREVOCABLE AGREEMENT that you have no understanding of what you're talking about, that you pretended interest science is false, and that your interest is ONLY in pushing other people into obeying your irrational anti-human ignorant superstition.

So hurry up and answer.

Joe do have a real look, you are too smart to allow your self to be conned as you currently are.

The only place you will find any global warming recently is in computer models, or in homogenized figures, after the tampering with real observation figures to make them conform to the narrative.

Look as hard as you like, & any study you do will prove CO2 as innocent as a new born babe. It simply can not do what the warmist claim. They have to invent easily disproved "tipping points", & even the theory doesn't hold water or heat.

The elites don't like us lowly peasants living such rich & comfortable lives. What the hell use is it being an elite, if your plumber & electrician have it almost as good as you do.

I find it hard to believe you have ever looked seriously at the theory or the arguments for the theory. If any one as rational as you have always been on other topics actually looks at the subject they can not do other than be amazed that they fell for the scam in the first place.