I am in agreement with shadowminister.

it was you do with your qualifications that count.

Some people do heaps without any, beyond basic year 11 and 12.

Some of the most interesting and astute people I ever met never went to university.

Chris Lewis,

The best engineers I have worked with did not have engineering degrees.

And I am sure the records will show that lots of the great doctors, architects, accountants, and others in vocational fields did not have degrees in their fields.

I think the shadyminister would have turned out to be a fantastic engineer with or without an engineering degree.

But the Arts things like history, anthropology, archaeology, sociology, philosophy, etc. are a different kettle of fish. One definitely needs a degree to qualify in these areas. If someone tells me he/she is an anthropologist for example the first thing I will ask is "What are your degrees?" Someone tells me he/she is an engineer I think to myself "Big deal!"

Mr O, that is where we are different.

I judge a person by what he or she has to say.

Don't care what degrees they have.

Having degrees might mean you were kicking back in the air-con not getting your hands dirty while everybody else is working hard in factories or out in the hot sun, to keep the nation afloat.

In 2020 University is the easy path.
Getting your first job in a factory or labouring in the Aussie sun is not so easy.

White collar are privelidged.
You won't have to take out other peoples garbage
Or clean the public toilets
Or ruin your bodies labouring

Others will clean up after YOU

All of these menial tasks are immediately beneath you.
- But that doesn't mean that someone still has to do them to have the world you enjoy.

University educated people should be forced to do 2 days works of all the crap jobs they think are beneath them, so they don't ever get too far ahead of themselves.

What's it going to be, garbage duty or latrines?

Don't contribute anything useful, no.
Why don't we all become experts in gender studies and what a wonderful world it would be.

Pffftt, whatever you reckon.

Armchair Critic,

Instead of wasting time at uni we can do what you would do or have done: fill in a form and pay $10 with your credit card to get a postal order degree.

That might be alright for someone like you but leave me out please. I'm old school and like doing things the good old fashioned way.

Most uni students that I knew/know worked during
their holidays and did a variety of jobs from
working in factories, in restaurants, in retail,
in wherever they could find employment. So it's
a myth that uni students are only from wealthy families
and that they sit in air-con places and do nothing.

Just as its a myth that all uni students are "educated".
You can lead a person to a university but you can't
make them think - is an old adage but a true one.
The same as getting top marks in a class on anatomy
does not make you a good doctor able to handle an
emergency department in a large hospital. Or a person
who gets top marks in educational philosophy will not
necessarily be able to handle an unruly classroom.
Those skills are not even taught at university and most
people pick them up on the job.