I think it is more important to avoid a serious
risk not only for one's own children and grand-children
but also and perhaps more specifically for the health
conditions of the population as a whole. So yes, I would
take the vaccine when it becomes available for the
protection of us all.

Realistically, how many of us even question where the
current vaccines that we take come from? Most of us
take them simply as safety and preventative measures.

Also, until the churches take a more pro-active position
against child sexual abuse within their own ranks -
they are in no position to
lecture anybody on ethical or moral standards regarding
children.
children.

Paul,

Aside from the fact that the pedogreens are riddled with Anti Vaxxers I guess that the whole concept of ethics flies above your head.

I also know your youthful experience with the Catholic Church has left you more than a little anal, but lying about what the Archbishop was saying was also highly unethical.

The AB was not calling on Morrison to exclude this particular vaccine from Aus, rather to purchase some doses of other vaccines for the handful of people whose religious beliefs preclude the standard vaccine

I wonder how many of us realize that some of the
vaccines currently used to prevent diseases such as -
rubella, measles, rabies, polio, chickenpox or
smallpox, hepatitis, are produced using tissues from
human abortions.

http://www.bioethics.georgetown.edu/2017/01/is-it-true-that-there-are-vaccines-produced-using-aborted-fetuses/

Yeah Foxy a lot of Germans closed their eyes to nazis awhile back. Nothing has changed.

First, I think that some crucial information is missing:

1. Are the foetal cell-lines still present in the vaccine when injected, or are they only a part of the process?

2. How old was the fetus when aborted?

3. Was the fetus killed for the purpose of vaccines, or was s/he killed anyway and science only obtained the remains?

4. If the answer to questions 3 and 4 is unsatisfactory, can a new tissue be used from a frozen IVF product that is not intended to be used anyway (perhaps because the mother died or is no longer capable of pregnancy, or where genetic issues make the cells unable to develop fully into a living human)?

I would find it hypocritical if someone who routinely eats the flesh of grown-up, fully-developed and purposefully killed animals, avoids a vaccine that historically made use of (but does not even include) a tissue from just one fetus that was much less evolved when killed than the animals they eat.

At the end of the day, everyone should follow their own conscience, religion and vows.

Those who cannot use this particular vaccine should be encouraged to import different vaccines.

Since it takes a minimum of 5 years, & more like 10 years to prove a vaccine is actually safe, & not worse than the disease it is designed to stop, there is no way I will be touching the stuff, & I believe only an idiot would touch the stuff in the first couple of years of it's introduction. Hell I wouldn't buy even a new car model of a car, until it has been around for a couple of years, & I don't stick new cars into my veins. They are merely a financial risk.