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I am a Sovereign Citizen, or just a Bogan!

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Dear Joe,

Before proceeding, let me clarify that this is not a personal matter and I am not seeking to create my own new society. Overall I have personally little to complain about the existing society, except that I do not want to be part of, or support, a society that forces itself on others who want nothing to do with it.

I will therefore leave the nitty-gritti on how to form a new society for others who are personally interested in it. I am sure that if there is a will then there is a way. After all, new human societies were created at times when not only was there no internet, post or roads, but not even a language!

As for relations between independent societies (or between societies and individuals who belong to none), all we need is to observe and learn from the relations between different species, so if another species impinges on your accumulated efforts, you go into pest-control mode (if you can). What you don't do, is to feel betrayed and prosecute them as if they broke some covenant with you.

BTW, Australia already has a fuzzy sort of an alternative society, albeit for aboriginal people only. This includes parallel native titles that cross "conventional" land-titles and some traditional rights to hunt, fish and be nude that non-aboriginals (wrongly) do not enjoy.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 11:46:54 PM
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There's more to things than what there seems.
Me personally, I think everyone has a right to live however they want so long as it doesn't affect others in a negative or detrimental manner.

With that in mind I say 'Wear the damn mask, for your own sake and the sake of others, and stay home.'
The sooner we comply the sooner it will be over.

That said I won't support ANY long term law changes based on this one event.

Why? Because the whole thing is a global set up.
I support a full investigation instead.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 3:46:24 AM
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People who don't really contribute to society are Bogan ! Be they on Welfare or filthy rich !
Posted by individual, Thursday, 20 August 2020 8:56:53 PM
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Yuyutsu,

Aboriginal people in the North or in remote areas don't do much hunting and gathering these days, except maybe 'hunting' by rifle and Toyota - and they've been doing that for eighty or ninety years now - Albert Namatjira was interviewed in the 1930s and asked about his favourite pastimes. Hunting roos, he said. From the back of a truck with a .303.

And they certainly don't get around nude, except involuntarily in situations of domestic violence.

Are you writing from a century ago, and time-travelling to 2020 ?

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Friday, 21 August 2020 10:25:09 AM
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I think a lot more progress could be made in matters indigenous if those with no experience with indigenous stayed out of the debates !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 22 August 2020 12:52:52 PM
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Sort of on-topic: the sentencing of that terrorist for the murder of 51 innocent Muslims and attempted murder of forty more:

http://www.news.com.au/world/pacific/christchurch-massacre-mosque-gunmans-miserable-life-to-come-in-violent-prison/news-story/6c15f4fa02d6d0127bdae3c650bdda0d

Did any of those murdered hurt any other people ? Blow them up ? Shoot them ? Even harass them ? It doesn't seem so. So they certainly didn't deserve to die.

So this trash will spend the rest of his life - and I hope it's a very long life - in the confines of Paremoremo, in Auckland, where he can preach his race-supremacy to some pretty tough inmates. Perhaps Polynesian Panthers (are they still around ?) and various extreme anti-pakeha Maori groups.

Justice might grind slow, but it grinds surely.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Monday, 24 August 2020 3:07:14 PM
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