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I am a Sovereign Citizen, or just a Bogan!

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What is it to be, a citizen exercising their individual rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, or a citizen playing the part of a Bogan. In these "unprecedented" times, we are being asked to make "horrendous" sacrifices, such as wearing a mask in public if we live in Melbourne. For the vast majority, these restrictions are not a problem, maybe an inconvenience, but not a great problem. A small minority object on the grounds that their rights as a Sovereign Citizen are being excessively infringed. Something that appears to have originated from the far right in the US, a Sovereign Citizen believes they, and not the government, or the judiciary, should be the arbitrators of what laws/regulations they should obey or ignore. Much of what these people believe is rooted in outlandish conspiracy theories, and a belief that what they call common law has been replaced by admiralty law, a new legal system designed to enslave them, control their lives in every way. According to true believers in the concept of the Sovereign Citizen this is all the work of secret government which has a vested interest in keeping them enslaved. In Melbourne, a few caught not wearing a face mask have claimed sovereign citizenry as a reason for non compliance, are these people genuine, or lazy, forgetting their mask, or just Bogans who don't know what they are talking about?
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 16 August 2020 7:00:20 AM
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sounds like cousins to the blm's tantrum throwers.
Posted by runner, Monday, 17 August 2020 8:48:42 AM
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As you are asking, I would definitely say that you are just a bogan.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 17 August 2020 9:00:47 AM
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Ding-a-Lings is my best description.
If you drink the water from the tap, make use of the provided sewage
system, buy food in the shops, then you are not sovereign.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 17 August 2020 9:04:42 AM
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Dear Paul,

I think anyone who considers themselves a "Sovereign
Citizen" of Australia would have pledged loyalty to
Australia and also pledged to share certain beliefs,
democratic beliefs, to respect the rights and liberty
of others and to respect the rule of law.

Therefore to refuse to comply by the law, such as the
wearing of masks in these difficult times is to go
against what one has pledged as a "Sovereign Citizen".
This would make a person anything but a "Sovereign
Citizen".
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 17 August 2020 10:20:27 AM
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cont'd ...

Dear Paul,

A person who does obey the rule of law can still be
a bogan. It all depends on their speech, clothing,
attitude and behaviour in all other respects. They
can be unrefined or unsophisticated but still loyal
to Australia, its values, and the rule of law - making
them a "Sovereign Citizen".
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 17 August 2020 10:41:47 AM
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