david f,

You have mentioned Socrates on a number of occasions.

Have you read any of his work?

Dear Mr Opinion,

I haven't read any of Socrates' works because he wrote nothing down. All we know of Socrates is the accounts about him in other people's works.

From https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/socrates/

"The philosopher Socrates remains, as he was in his lifetime (469–399 B.C.E.),[1] an enigma, an inscrutable individual who, despite having written nothing, is considered one of the handful of philosophers who forever changed how philosophy itself was to be conceived. All our information about him is second-hand and most of it vigorously disputed, but his trial and death at the hands of the Athenian democracy is nevertheless the founding myth of the academic discipline of philosophy, and his influence has been felt far beyond philosophy itself, and in every age. Because his life is widely considered paradigmatic not only for the philosophic life but, more generally, for how anyone ought to live, Socrates has been encumbered with the adulation and emulation normally reserved for religious figures – strange for someone who tried so hard to make others do their own thinking and for someone convicted and executed on the charge of irreverence toward the gods. Certainly he was impressive, so impressive that many others were moved to write about him, all of whom found him strange by the conventions of fifth-century Athens: in his appearance, personality, and behavior, as well as in his views and methods."

Correct. But he did leave us with the Socratic method.

I don't agree with you on the reason he was put to death. To my knowledge he was condemned because he was found guilty of corrupting the Athenian youth.

The Chinese people in Hong Kong have been demonstrating for democracy.
david f,
Are you sure it's the people of Hong Kong ? I always seem to hear references to students in relation to the riotous demonstrations !

Dear individual and Mr Opinion,

Talk to you again some time.

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Dear Individual,

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You wrote to david f. :

« In conversations with Public Servants it is painfully obvious that by far the greater percentage defend Labor & malign the Coalition which to me is evidence of the Public Service being Labor orientated ! I even had a Health Union President & Health bureaurcrat tell that she'll "do everything she can not to co-operate with that (Qld LNP) administraion". She still works for Qld Health !

I have taken particular notice over 38 years of Public Servants & literally 95% Labor are orientated.

So, it's no surprise no 'studies' have been done !

My experience from working alongside staunch Labor supporters is … that as long as they were ok nothing else mattered »
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Though you have not clearly indicated it to be such, the above statement seems to imply that you worked for 38 years as a public servant in Queensland alongside colleagues – 95% of whom you estimate were Labor-orientated politically – whereas, you, yourself, were one of the minority 5% who were not Labor-oriented.

Please correct me if I have incorrectly interpreted your statement and enlighten me as to what you really mean.

Whatever the case, I note with interest, your comment that, as regards your estimation that 95% of public servants in Australia (i.e., a total of almost 2 million) are all Labor-oriented while, at the same time, admitting that “ no 'studies' have been done !”

Also, if I have correctly interpreted your statement, Individual, and given our previous exchange on the same subject, I can only conclude that your declared aversion to Labor and “lefties” is essentially, if not entirely, subjective, based on your personal experience which, of course, is not necessarily generalisable to the totality of the 2 million public servants in Australia.

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