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Who runs things in Australia ?

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david f,

Now that Australia is an Asian nation-state maybe we should consider having a one party political system to give us the despotism to match the culture.

We can still have our Tony Abbotts, Kevin Rudds, Scott Morrisons, et al standing for election in their respective communities but they just all belong to the same party.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Thursday, 13 August 2020 12:03:59 PM
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Misopinionated,

Are you advocating this:

"Now that Australia is an Asian nation-state maybe we should consider having a one party political system to give us the despotism to match the culture."

That would make some sense. Misdescriptions, mighty leaps of logic, and an idiotic conclusion - these are right up your alley.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Thursday, 13 August 2020 12:21:51 PM
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Dear Opinionated,

According to John Keane democracy started in Asia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Life_and_Death_of_Democracy

“Keane's book deals with the meaning and institutions of democracy, historical roots and its present-day trends. The starting point in Keane's history is to re-consider democracy's roots. Fifth century BCE Athens (Greece), for many the cradle of democracy, was an important stage of the development process of democracy, but certainly not its point of origin. The origins of the idea of this new way of governing stretch beyond the Peloponnesus' coasts and date back to the ancient civilizations of Syria-Mesopotamia (ca. 2500 BCE).”

Even in the Bible there is mention of Asian democracy. A democratic assemblage rejected the theocracy of Samuel’s sons, and God told Samuel to listen to the voice of the people.

Samuel 1 8:7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.

The most populous multiparty democracy in the world is India.

The Chinese people in Hong Kong have been demonstrating for democracy.

In WW2 we fought against the one-party European, totalitarian dictatorships of Germany and Italy.

Democracy and one-party dictatorships are not unique to Europe or Asia. Both can arise and have arisen in more than one continent.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 13 August 2020 2:42:40 PM
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david f,

I'm sure that there a lots of examples of proto-democracy but western democracy as we know it developed from our knowledge of the Greeks and the classical world.

It was in Greece particularly Athens that people began to set themselves apart from the gods and see themselves establishing social and political action as governed by people and not by divine rule.

I cannot think of any instances of this happening prior to the Greeks.

Do you know of any?

I must have a look at his book.

Do you know what his thesis is in the book?
Posted by Mr Opinion, Thursday, 13 August 2020 3:15:40 PM
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Misop,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Life_and_Death_of_Democracy
Posted by loudmouth2, Thursday, 13 August 2020 5:05:12 PM
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Dear Joe,

Drop the "s".
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 13 August 2020 5:22:35 PM
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