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Closing The Gap 2.0

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ALTRAV,

Could you please explain to me why you are so
adamant against a man like Eddie Jaku?
Apart from the fact that he happens to be a
Holocaust survivor? What proof do you have that
he's lying about his life?
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 6:41:22 PM
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Foxy,

YOU may want to call them powerful women, I choose to call them maggots because I am referring to an ugly disgusting creature, that is repulsive to all who come into contact with them.
She like the rest of these 'look at moi' set are absolutely nothing to be held in any regard.
She lost all respect and was dragged over the coals because of that one fateful comment which set her persona well and truly in the rubbish bin where it belongs.
Whilst we have women who should be admired like Bettina Andt for her/their TRUE courage, even tolerating threats of death and even close to physical abuse, FROM WOMEN, (maggots) I will NOT tollerate some smarmy twat staring down the camera with a scowl and threatening face, making a pointed and directed attack at mothers to "tell their boys to stop raping girls"!
What a pig, or maggot or whatever garbage name one gives a garbage person like that.
Media personalities are not paid or instructed to give personal opinions.
IF they do they will suffer the consequences, which I know YOU are an avid advocate of, now how did you put it?
"Hate speech has consequences"? or do I have it wrong?
Perhaps you could actually be of use on this forum for once and quote me YOUR actual words so you won't have cause to accuse me of something.
Seeing as how they were YOUR words, and you were busting everyone's chops saying them so often, it should not be too hard to remember or quote them.
Oh and as for your lovely little poem, sadly again I think you missed the boat, you see all that it says in the poem, is exactly what can happen to you too!
I don't know about you but I've enjoyed having been eaten by women, and still do, so if that's what awaits me upon dying; WHOA, BRING IT ON!
Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 7:03:17 PM
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Foxy,

if you read me again, you will find that I don't disbelieve him being a holocaust survivor.
My criticism is about firstly the fact that after someone has gone through what he and others have described as the treatment of Jews, I choose to and refuse to believe that they would forgive those that caused this tragedy to another human being, I would hate them till the day I died.
Now that is reasonable because the people who inflected these atrocities on him and other Jews were still alive and if he is still alive, so would there be some of the guilty ones left, and it is THOSE people I would hate till they died and beyond.
As for my other comments, I truly believe that this interview was in fact a veiled advertisement for his book.
Quite a normal or usual practice, not unusual to me anyway.
I have not, nor make any personal attacks on him or his story, only the fact that if he was truly trying to tell his story and not profit from it, he could have put it out there for free, like on the internet, but no, as I said the book is for sale then it is for profit or reward then it must be promoted and advertised.
If you care to use your researching skills I think you will find I'm right.
So recapping, I say nothing disparaging about him only sympathy for what he went through, and I believe the TV interview was to promote the book.
There, clear enough for you?
Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 7:24:31 PM
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ALTRAV,

A couple of things:

1) Lisa Wilkinson's tearful monologue back in 2018
needs to be taken in context. It was on the vicious
rape and murder of Eurydice Dixon - a well known
and much loved personality.

Wilkinson got very emotional and when she said -
"Instead of telling our girls NOT to walk through
parks we should ALSO be telling our boys not to rape
them". What Lisa was referring to and talking about
was changing the behaviour in raising our children
not just girls, but boys as well, to prevent future
tragic deaths.

Lisa does not deserve to be called a "maggot".

2) Regarding your comments concerning Eddie Jaku, the
Holocaust survivor. You can now back-peddle all you want
however you did say Mr Jaku was living a lie, that there
was no way he was being honest neither to himself nor
the rest of society. That his book was a commercial
venture - that he published his book for money, That his
interview with Lisa Wilkinson was a vested and covert
advertisement for his book. You called me and Joe -
schmucks and that we looked at things misguidedly, not
seeing the actual truth. You questioned Mr Jaku's
integrity.

All rather reprehensible when all the man is trying to
achieve is a better world for us all. He turned 100 in
April. He does not need the money. He volunteers his
time and he does it all for free. Living a lie?
When he has his concentration number etched on his
forearm - 172338 from Auschwitz. And you question
whether he's been through what he says he's been through?

His aim is to send a message that will continue to inspire
positive change in future generations because he's seen
with his own eyes what hatred can do.

A shame he wasn't able to reach you.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 10:27:34 PM
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Foxy,

stop reading your version of what I said.
I said he's living a lie because he should be angry with what happened and not forgive anyone.
That is also part of living a lie.
No one goes through what he went through and seeks to forgive his aggressors, that is what I mean by he's living a lie.
As for the book I already explained that if he truly wanted to spread the word and he doesn't need the money, then he would have put his story out there for free, like on the internet.
Now THAT'S how you help people.
I do not retract my opinion and comments about the maggot.
You can feel however you want about whoever you want, I look deeper than you and that's why you will never understand or agree with me.
And let me correct your lie.
The scene I related in my posting was embedded in my memory forever and let me stop you in your tracks by telling you I saw a very evil twisted aggressive maggot looking/glaring at me through the TV and you must be blind or wearing those stupid glasses again, because the face/person I saw was NOT tearful in any way shape or form.
Besides I have nothing good to say about your "much loved" arrogant fool who had been offered protection and be escorted by her boyfriend, but because she was another prize fool, she ended up exactly where she ended up.
And don't you dare try and make it anything but what it was, a stupid decision by an arrogant jumped up smart arse, and look where it got her.
It's exactly the same as a friend telling his drunk mate not to drive home and attempting to offer assistance so he can sleep it off, but the arrogant stupid fool drives off and kills someone.
Now that I could ALMOST forgive, because he was not a full quid, he was drunk and incapable of making cognisant and coherent decisions.
Where-as she was not drunk, so her decision was based on pride and arrogance.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 12:33:36 AM
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ALTRAV,

1) It was from your words and your own post -
that I cited.

2) What you think Eddie Jaku should be and how in
your opinion he should act, or not forgive - has
nothing to do with the man and his behaviour.
He is not you. And your standards do not apply
to him.

3) Eddie Jaku is his own person. He lived his own life
and it is precisely because of what he lived
through that is the reasons he is doing what
he is doing today.

4) Eddie's book is on the internet.

Have a nice day.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 11:18:39 AM
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