ALTRAV,

I do have a name on this forum.

I prefer not to be referred to as "She".

Also the only one doing the mocking here to which
I responded was - Individual.

I did not mention a deity by name.

Runner made his own assumptions which happen as always
to be wrong.

BTW: There's more than just one God. Some people
believe in several. Others in none at all.

'Runner made his own assumptions which happen as always
to be wrong.'

Actually Foxy I made no assumption as to what you believe. I was responding to the topic not an individual. If I was responding to what you wrote I would of addressed you.

As for Christ being mocked you would have to live on mars not to have noticed our perverted national broadcasters, our deviant uni professors and sneering politicians over the last 5 decades or more. Mohammed the slave trader and owner of an 8 year old bride gets off lightly.

runner,

correct!

What if we take the view that Christ was merely a self appointed messenger of this GOD he chose to create and promote?
To me he was no different to all the so called religious leaders who came after him, except that he sought no gain or monetary profit from his preaching, and sought no favours, unlike those who I label as con-men and charlatans, following on and including those of the present day.
People once were threatened with all kinds of GOD's, to keep them under control, but as time passed and the people became more educated and asked more questions, the answers revealed a false reality.
Oh there are still plenty of sad and scared people, lacking courage, self confidence or direction, and it is they who still seek the shelter and security of this imaginary being and it's guidance.
As much as we don't want to see it, but these "religions" are the creations of mere men.
Some good, like Christ, and some bad, like the so called Muslim and Jewish faith's which both advocate and promote the killing of those not of their faith.
History and the Koran and Torah confirms this.
The Christian or Christ's teachings were those of love, peace and inclusivity, not so these two.
Anyway, I'm saying no more, as the elephant in the room including all of you, know the truth.

'What if we take the view that Christ was merely a self appointed messenger of this GOD he chose to create and promote?'

Problem with that approach ALTRAV is that Christ constantly spoke of being sent from the Father, sent from God, going back to the Father. Your version would make Him a liar like every other human being. It would then be idiotic putting one's faith in someone who lied.

You are right that their are plenty of scared people seeking a shelter, a crutch or however you like to label it. Personally I think a person who does not fear the Maker of heaven and earth is a fool especially if they believe Jesus never lied. He referred many times to hell and a few times to heaven. If there is no judgement then it means every lying democrat and republican, every paedophile, every nazi , every adulterer, every homosexual has gotten away with their crimes. Personally I think forgiveness and salvation for someone who knows they are guilty is an offer I can't refuse. I certainly can't refuse and the fear turns into appreciation when you know the cost of forgiveness paid for by Christ.

Foxy,
There is just one God. Other gods are merely powerless figments of human imagination.

What makes you think Leonard Cohen's Anthem is about faith?
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runner,
Do you regard everything that doesn't fit your blind faith based worldview as "idiotic and unscientific fantasies"? If not, what criteria do you use to classify theories as such?

And what makes you think the Big Bang theory was invented by atheists?

Dear Aidan,

The following link explains it all about Cohen's
Anthem:

http://www.qz.com/835076/leonard-cohens-anthem-the-story-of-the-line-there-is-a-crack-in-everything-thats-how-the-light-gets-in/

It's worth a read.

Then you'll understand hopefully why I chose it for this
discussion.

Thank you for asking. You're the only one who did.