Dear Josephus,

What?

Lol.

Joe said-

Clearly, I'm determined to be condemned by both left and right - and on the same thread !

Answer-

Joe recently I've noticed that I agree with more of what you say if that is any consolation. Though being condemned widely myself you may not see that as a good thing. Often I find people won't care if you agree with them. If a moderate says something many won't trust their commitment and so won't invest in the relationship. The forum is not necessarily the place to make friends- without a fair amount of adaptability. You have to have an extremely thick skin. Overall I think you try- and that's to your credit. Take care mate.

Li Quan says- Military action is inauspicious- it is only considered important because it is a matter of life and death, and there is the possibility that it may be taken up lightly.

Du Mu says- the survival or destruction of a country and the life or death of its people may depend on military action, so it is necessary to examine it carefully.

The same is true of politics.

According to great Australian tradition -You don't talk politics or religion in a bar- (because it's a friendly environment).

Thanks Runner, Diver Dan, Ttbn, Shadow Minister, and Josephus for your comments. Even Paul1405 made some comments that appeared relatively constructive in speaking out against communists.

SR,

Glad to see you admit your racism. If riots, looting and murder are the seismic shift you were looking for then you are right. Defunding the police is just what the US needs to stabilise the economy and lift the minorities out of their squalor. As 90% of blacks being murdered are being murdered by blacks, I am sure the lack of police will calm things right down.

As for being on the right side of history, it is looking real peachy from my side.

You all know what the plan is right?

Democratic Mayors are deliberately promoting civil unrest to polarise the situation and gain back the black vote for Democrats (Plan A), as well as create a situation where voting can be rigged through mail in votes (Plan B), with the last line of defence being Trump removed under Continuity of Government. (Plan C)

This has always been the plan from Day 1.
Get rid of Trump, this isn't a decree of the people, its a decree of the elites who's interests are served by the Democratic Party.

The FBI knew conclusively in Jan/Feb of 2016 that the Russian collusion narrative was bs. (That's within 1mth of inaugruation)
They kept the bs going for years and stole back the house of representatives on the back of these lies.

Shadow Minister,

And it would have looked real peachy from the salve owner's or the segregationist's perspective too, until it didn't.

Trump has lost the American people who matter. There are Walls of Moms protecting protesters in Portland. There are Walls of Veterans doing the same. The dam has broken and Trump's fascist behavior is being shown for what it is, anti-American.