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An appalling story...

Sovereignty of nations says that people can do what they want in their own country.

Rather than getting tied up in internecine conflict- it's wasteful of scarce resources that can be used in better more effective ways- maybe that is the better option- we have given them resources and they have burned them- we have tried to fix the problems and are punished for it- we have tried our best and now we need to try something completely different and go back to first principles.
Posted by Canem Malum, Friday, 24 July 2020 11:42:06 AM
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Dear GrahamY,

I'm really not sure why you are uncomfortable approving the post. This is pretty standard fare on OLO, so much so that there really isn't that much energy for stomping on it. While good on paul1405 and loudmouth2 for having a bit of a crack there are some of us who really can't be bothered.

There is a big pendulum swing in the offing at the moment both in the US and here. The opening of the baseball season saw virtually all players take a knee, we have seen the same with our own AFL. Those who were embolden by Trump are now becoming increasingly shrill as they have now shown themselves for who they really are.

Now the first preference is to ignore them, to see them as that racist, drunk uncle at a family gathering. People sigh, cast a knowing look at others, then just move on.

What possible reason would there be to engage with this author? OLO of years ago would have just ignored him. Now there are enough of his ilk to produce a little cheer-squad geeing each other on.

It is fine to allow toxicity if you feel it can be adequately dealt with due to the dynamics within the group. I'm not sure that exists in a form that puts this stuff to bed anymore.

Perhaps being a little more circumspect in the future might be the order of the day.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 24 July 2020 2:48:34 PM
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"Sovereignty of nations says that people can do what they want in their own country."

We don't really have sovereignty.
We have a version of sovereignty in which 'we think we are independent and decide our future' but really the opposite is true, we don't decide anything.
We don't really have democracy, we have this watered down faux democracy, which is really only democracy in outside appearance.

Were only allowed to decide things for ourselves that don't even matter.
Things that through '2 party pass the baton politics' will eventuate nonetheless, as they keep on moving the goalposts.

What you want to do is look at the things where we have no say;
Where we cannot decide for ourselves, where it's already been decided for us.

Have a look at the international bodies that steer our decisions.

http://www.isdglobal.org/

Strong Cities Network
http://www.isdglobal.org/programmes/policy-government-advisor/strong-cities-network/
'Uniting mayors, municipal-level policy makers and practitioners to build social cohesion and resilience to counter violent extremism in all its forms'

Powering Grassroots Networks Against Hate And Extremism
http://www.isdglobal.org/programmes/grassroots-networks/
"Extremism is a global phenomenon that is ill served by top-down approaches. We work to empower and facilitate civil society, fostering networks of independent, community groups and influencers to take the lead at the front lines, applying their granular expertise and credibility in a way that delivers impact at scale.

ISD’s networks include practitioners, youth, women, community influencers, former violent extremists, victims and survivors of violent extremism. These networks provide granular knowledge and context, which inform the creation and distribution of counter-extremism programmes and form the most effective channels to maximise reach and impact."

Relationships with State Governments
http://strongcitiesnetwork.org/en/cve-spotlight-compact/
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 25 July 2020 4:22:51 AM
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[Cont.]

http://www.iclei.org/en/Home.html
"ICLEI – Local Governments for Sustainability is a global network of more than 1,750 local and regional governments committed to sustainable urban development. Active in 100+ countries, we influence sustainability policy and drive local action for low emission, nature-based, equitable, resilient and circular development."

http://www.icleioceania.org/
On the page linked above, you'll see a link to 'Global Covenant of Mayors for Climate and Energy' - Oceania region

"The Global Covenant of Mayors for Climate & Energy (GCoM) is an international alliance of cities and local governments with a shared commitment to accelerate ambitious, measurable climate and energy initiatives to meet and exceed the Paris Agreement objectives. The GCoM serves cities and local governments of all sizes in all parts of the world, working with city/regional networks, national governments and other partners."

Your local council is a signatory to this.
http://www.gcom-oceania.org/cities
http://www.gcom-oceania.org/

Were only allowed to decide on the stuff that doesn't matter;
i.e. The issues that can slowly implemented against our will anyway with successive changes of government.

Were only allowed to decide on stuff that doesn't matter, whilst we have no choice and must follow the above global plans.

The stuff we decide on that doesn't matter, that can be implemented against our will through successive changes of government sits beneath these 'bigger plans' that have already been decided for us, and which we have no say in.

Anyone every heard of these organisations?
These nobodies are deciding your future for you.
You think you have sovereignty and democracy, but all you really have is a mental illness from being deluded.

We decide nothing.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 25 July 2020 4:30:14 AM
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[Cont.]

Now think about the Black Lives Matters protests and specifically ask yourself why most of the people are white kids from university.

Why?
What the hell is going on here?
30 years ago University students wouldn't shut the country down trying to support Aboriginal people.
Not even Peter Garret and Midnight Oil were capable of that with 'Beds are Burning'.

Whats changed?

- The minds of these Uni students -

They're victims, they cant think objectively for themselves.
Their puppets in someone else's school-play.

They've been peer pressured into acting the way they do because they think it's the right way to act.

Look at them lash out, they're minds are backed into a corner.
Is this not how they're acting?

They are so busy trying to prove to each other that they are not racist, the only way they can do it is follow the narrative that is set for them, and 'Hate White People'

That's the only way they can conclusively prove to their peers at University that they themselves ARE NOT racist.

Western countries have become very sick.
The only thing that can be garnished from this is that someone has 'ulterior motives' interests in steering our society.

They don't think we can decide for ourselves, but they will let us think that we have democracy, because that is the vehicle in which they best consolidate the power they want over us for themselves.

About time we all see it for what it is.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 25 July 2020 4:51:08 AM
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Thanks Armchair Critic for your post. I always find them very informative.

Yes I'm very concerned by organizations and policies that undercut "the vote" and the peoples view. There are many of these front organizations coming out of the woodwork.

There was the case of the "Sleeping Giants" that eventually got DOXed and the leader who worked in an advertizing firm was found to be engaging in activities against their own business client BMW. Of course he lost his job. The Sleeping Giants appear to have been sadly instrumental in shutting down Australian TV Channel "Your Money" by lobbying advertisers.

The universities are another thing- the universities have become overwhelmed with foreigners- when universities as I understand are for the locals to develop talent. The locals are afraid. Very worrying.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 25 July 2020 7:23:46 AM
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