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CHINA - an Asian invasion?

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Mr O,

I'm surprised you ask. I've stated quite clearly many
times that - to be an Australian citizen one pledges
loyalty first; loyalty to Australia. One pledges
to share certain beliefs - to respect the rights and
liberties of others, and to respect the rule of law.

I won't repeat everything . That's enough.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 27 July 2020 7:19:40 PM
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Foxy,

Those things are meaningless. I am an Australian citizen and have never nor ever been asked to pledge or respect any of those things you have stated above. And to be truthful I doubt if I ever would do so.

You didn't answer my question: What do you think of migrants who hold dual citizenship?
Posted by Mr Opinion, Monday, 27 July 2020 8:06:06 PM
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Mr O,

You told me on another of my discussions that
you can work out what goes through my mind from
my posts. That this was an advantage you claimed
of being smart - that you've developed a knack of
working things out. A simple consequence of what
you are.

Sop knock yourself out - and go for it!
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 27 July 2020 10:30:50 PM
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Foxy,

Thanks for the challenge.

I think that you are a dual national - Australian and Lithuanian - and that it is not a conflict for you because you believe that loyalty and respect for the nation-state are irrelevant with respect to where one chooses to live.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Monday, 27 July 2020 11:03:19 PM
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Dear Mr. Opinion,

I am a dual citizen migrant and I have no loyalty or respect for ANY nation-state.

It is a sad fact that anyone with a human body is no longer allowed to live on the face of this planet without at least one citizenship, preferably more for convenience and safety.

Nation states are a bunch of bullies that imposed themselves over all the people of this earth without asking for their consent, leaving no space behind. None of them is legitimate.

...But I can see where you are leading Foxy - into the Chinese question!

Well, if forced to choose between "nations", illegitimate as they may be, then I would always favour the one(s) that allow myself and others more freedom to live our lives the way we choose, be it culturally-based or whatever. As such, siding with Australia is the better choice and siding with China is one of the poorest choices. That would remain my position regardless, even if I had Chinese ancestry and that would also be the position of any conscientious person of Chinese ancestry, whether or not circumstances allow them to safely express this view.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 12:28:15 AM
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Fascinating... Being a cabbage I'll have to have a think before replying. Thanks for the stimulating comments.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 2:28:51 AM
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