I have never attacked Chinese people for being Chinese.

But i will attack anyone who defends the CCP.

Cunningham provides some useful stuff for us critics of the CCP.

"In primary school, all Chinese children are supposed to join the Young Pioneers, a 130-million-strong youth organisation controlled by the Communist Party.

In high school, teachers invite students who achieve highly, academically and morally, to join the Communist Youth League. In university, excellent students are invited to join the Communist Party.

In contrast, Hong Kong students do not study Moral Education and cannot join the Young Pioneers, Youth League or the Communist Party".

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-29/why-chinese-and-hong-kong-students-clash-in-australia/11457846

i thank my parents for brining me to Australia where I (and my daughter) can freely think, think and think.

And we are supposed to be worried about Chinese having better study scores than us. Please don't make me laugh

Foxy,

My criticisms have always been directed at the Chinese nation and its supporters and adherents.

Which of course raises the stakes because what we are in fact talking about is the rise of the Chinese nation-state and the implications that this has for Australia, which is what Stan Grant is also talking about.

let us keep this thread going forever. Most important thread for decades give the real threat the CCP is.

I mean who could be impressed with a CCP that encourages its kids to join a youth group, controlled by the CCP?

My daughter was already an independent thinker at six when she stated she would not do religious studies anymore.

I was proud because she had her own ability to work it out for herself, as we never ridiculed religion in her presence.

If she had liked the subject, i also would have been proud, because she already has an ability to think about the issues.

Poo kids in CCP land, will never have that choice.

And we pathetic Aussies want their money at our universities. I hope the industry collapses, and we get more taiwanese and HK students.

Seriously? Anyone who brings this subject up after all that the CCP has been doing has been in a coma. This is an insult to anyone who has known what the CCP has been up to since the Red Emperor and admirer of Mao Zedong, Xi Jinping took over.

We are not talking about quaint little pigtailed miners and market gardeners who "have been here for generations". We are not talking about Chinese people or China at all. We are talking about the Chinese Communist Party, which controls everything and everyone in China, plus a good number of expatriates spread throughout the world.

This is not a topic to be casually chucked into the ring for discussion by people who don't have a clue. What the CCP is trying to do globally is what it is doing domestically in mainland China and Hong Kong - to Chinese people - keeping them down and keeping them fearful. It's not just in HK where citizens are rebelling against the hated CCP. Only 6.5% of Chinese people are CCP members.

So, let's stop this crap about Sinophobia and racism. Stop talking about China. Start familiarising yourselves with the Chinese Communist Party. Western ideology, Left/Right doesn't count. Two of the best books on the CCP threat have been written by Lefty, Clive Hamilton. Mr. Opinion is a Lefty, as is Chris Lewis; both of whom know what a threat the CCP is to Australia. Until you've read these books (and there are many others by US writers) you don't know crap from clay on this matter.

'Stealth War', Robert Sterling
'Xi Jinping: The Backlash', Richard McGregor
'Hidden Hand', Clive Hamilton
'Silent Invasion' Clive Hamilton
'Bully of Asia', Steven Mosher
'Destined For War', Graham Allison

A few primers for a start. There are truck loads of books on the CCP. There is no excuse for ignorance or naive questions on this serious threat, to not just Australia, but the world.

Yes, ttbn.

if we do not respect the virtues of having a society that is free to think, despite our differences, you have nothing.

It is all about the CCP and the threat it poses for free people, and the goal of being free for others.

Bring the Cold War on, please, please and please.

I bet the West will win.

Mr O,

I am not questioning your valid concern about the Chinese
threat to Australia. I would not have started this discussion
if I was. I am merely expressing my own concern that this
does not progress into something nasty - like the two students
who were bashed recently in Melbourne. We don't want to encourage
negativity towards the Chinese in general - do we?

Hi Chris,

You talk about the poor kids of the CCP. Yes, they undoubtedly
are indoctrinated. Just as the young were in the Soviet
Union. We shouldn't close the doors on them all together.
As students here they can learn a great deal from us and our
way of life. If they were to be exposed to a Western life-style
and see for themselves that the West is not the "enemy"
that it's painted out to be. If they discover for themselves
the truth instead of the lives they are being taught - they
will be harder to indoctrinate and for them to believe what they are being taught.

I believe that our influences are stronger than theirs.

After all look at the changes that have taken place with other
totalitarian regimes. The Berlin Wall came down. The Soviet
regime lost its occupied countries. Who knows what faces China
in the future. As people travel, and are exposed to other
ideas - it becomes harder to maintain the status quo - as your
six year old daughter has proven to you.