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Discrinimation and Racism in Justiciary ... and the next Cronulla

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Cronulla bashing. Attacker of lifeguard given 'supsended sentence, a lecture and 300 hours 'community' service.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/cronulla-fighter-betrayed-our-safe-haven/2006/09/29/1159337342874.html

Some Facts:

1/ Magistrate Jacqueline Trad who heard the case is of Lebanese decent.
2/ The suspect is Lebanese Muslim "Ali OSman".
3/ Trad was appointed as a Federal Magistrate after TWO MONTHS of qualifying as a solicitor. http://www.findlaw.com.au/article/15134.htm

4/ An Anglo Australian during the Cronulla period, in fear for his life, (due to widespread random attacks by Lebanese Muslim gangs on people of Anglo racial background) was arrested for carrying 'a branch'. He was 'charged, convicted and jailed' on the same day.

5/ Numerous media reports of "Groups of Middle eastern males carrying baseball bats were "spoken to then allowed to go" by Police.

Is anyone seeing what I am seeing ?

I've said many times "All peace is the result of a war, and every peace contains the seeds of the NEXT war"

A little voice inside tells me, 'summer is coming'.

What message has this 'lecture' (*ouch*..that really hurt) sent to the Lebanese Muslim community ?

Would it be something like "Don't worry about those stupid Affray and Riot laws... our people are the judges, they will just slap your hand. Next summer, come on down to Cronulla, and smash a few heads, it wont matter."

To the Anglo community ?

"There is no justice in the legal system, it is rife with discrimination and bias and corruption.... look after your own, don't rely on the police or the (in)Justice system" ?

Would it suprise any outside observer if Anglo communities were found to be:

Trained
Organized
Equipped

for lawful self defense next summer ?

Perhaps the next time we 'speak' it will be TEN thousand rather than five.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Saturday, 30 September 2006 8:43:29 AM
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I don't understand your point BD. Are you saying Anglo organisation of lynch mobs is justified if the law is biased? That the moral majority is always right and the law is wrong? Please explain padre?
Posted by Rainier, Saturday, 30 September 2006 12:41:00 PM
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Lynch mobs?
The only group carrying weapons as such were the Lebanese rainer.
As for the misnomer of race riot... it was a protest with thousands of Australians from various ethicities protesting about a single group of people who had finally caused them to say enough is enough.
After 10 yerars of bad behaviour and intimidation Australians took a stand against the Lebanese louts.
Some people there got drunk and behaved badly, but it was a minority of less than 1%.
Where as the armed Lebanese rampage that followed had 100% involved.
Apologists and deniers need not reply...
Posted by T800, Saturday, 30 September 2006 12:55:26 PM
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Does anyone know, whether of Australian or otherwise background, that Australia has five traditionally bad cities? They are of course 1. Sydney; 2; Darwin; 3, (to a greatly lesser extent now) Kalgoorlie; 4, Mt Isa.

How about that hey.

So that would make these bad places an extreme minority in the traditional Aussie sense. Beleive it or not. The great tribulation being showered upon Sydney, however is not one any of us would like to see. But the engines of hate are there. And so is class-warfare, for what its worth.

If the moronic city dwellers got off their collective asses and went out and had a look at what Australia actually is, there might be a great reduction in the strain exhibited in these hyperbolic centeres. But for some reason, the magnetism of dynamic social tension is just too much to resist for some (read most).

May god bless the actual innocents of Sydney.
Posted by Gadget, Saturday, 30 September 2006 1:54:47 PM
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I don't mind.It just puts another nail in the coffin of the Iemma Govt.This is just par for the course for our judiciary.The NSW Govt doesn't want too many in goal since it is just too expensive.

It is better that we pay higher insurance premiums for crime,then the Govt gets an extra 10% stamp duty and 10% GST.You see crime does pay.
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 30 September 2006 2:36:44 PM
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BOAZ,

If you’re looking for someone to point the finger at for various social ills then magistrates and their sentencing decisions make pretty easy targets, as politicians, talkback hosts and other rabble rousers know only too well. Magistrates have to make their decisions based on the law and the evidence set before them, while their critics are not so hamstrung.

Popular sentiment holds that crime is best tackled by ever more draconian penalties, while criminologists hold that to really increase the deterrent value of the law you need to increase the chances of getting caught, not the penalties which follow. The problem in this case wasn’t the severity of the sentence, but the fact that only one kid faced court over the assault and affray, and it seems he was a relatively minor player in the whole nasty business.

I can’t judge if there was an error in his sentencing without knowing exactly what evidence was before the court. Neither can you. The best person to make that call would be the prosecutor, who has the option of appealing if they felt the sentence was inadequate for the young man’s crime. To my knowledge they’re not appealing. For you to then say that the magistrate was soft and biased, and that this was because of her shared ethnicity with the defendant is drawing a long and very unhelpful bow, given the existing tensions.

Could you elaborate on the Anglo who was arrested, tried, convicted and jailed merely for carrying a branch all on the one day? Either NSW has an extraordinarily efficient (and draconian) legal system, or I suspect you might be stretching the truth a bit here.
Posted by Snout, Saturday, 30 September 2006 2:49:39 PM
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