Good old Imam Jones :) yes.. I guess in his case there was always the commercial aspect in the back of his mind during Cronulla.

I hope you noted the point about 'Appointed Magistrate after 2 months of qualifying as a solicitor' for Ms Trad.

I don't know about that young fella in Penrith and parole.. do you have a link or source to that effect ?

Anyway... thanx for the interaction. I know that raising hairy points/issues will usually motivate some kind soul to add information which balances out the picture.

But as for Osman and his community service ? I don't hold up high hopes for Corrections to have a microscope on him. If they do, all well and good.
cheers

No, I don't have a link supporting my assumptions about the guy you mentioned. I'm basing my guess on the information that he was sent to jail for four months the day he was picked up. I don't know of any court in Australia that can provide such prompt and efficient service except for parole boards. Generally you wait weeks or months for the magistrate's court and longer for higher courts. I could be wrong, but the speed with which he was dealt with strongly suggests a pre existing sentence: I can only go on what you've told us. Where did your info come from? It doesn't ring true to me as the whole story.

Dear Snout
they said it was a special provision under some section or other.
Can't recall the term they used, but it wasn't parole violation, the context was clear about that.

cheers.

see u in the 'Women on front line nooooo' thread ? :)

As a British subject moving to Australia in the early 1980's I encountered the Aussie redneck's from my first week in the country (not another bloody foreigner mate !) ... right through to my last week as a long standing Australian citizen 18 years later.

Yes, the NESIBs are easy to have a go at, yes, they even stick together, mutual support, interests and friendship almost guarantee it ... but these things make good friends regardless of travelling or living in a community. Then there are the white wogs (to coin an Australian & new Australian phrase) such as myself, recommended to undertake elocution lessons from a white redneck Australian female with no idea (read, not enough intelligence - or a fraction of my vocabulary) to understand the blatant insult, even when I commented that I had a perfect Scottish accent, so why should I try to improve on perfection ... no, she did not see the humour!

The final slap came from the Aussie male (who looked Italian) with the attractive Asian lady in his car on a northern suburb (Sydney) beach who yelled at me to return to my own ("£$"$%"£^&^%&*^) country as he pushed in while parking his car ... his friend was fortunately enough, as appalled by his behaviour as I was.

I have been back in the UK for just over six years now and while my daughter (mixed hispanic/british descent) had an derogatory comment from a three year old with dubious parentage ... we have been fortunate not to have encountered the same expriences in the Scottish Borders; while I realise that both the new (immigrants) and old British (generally WASPs or Irish catholic) subjects also share the Australia redneck outlook ... I live in hope that they will eventually remove their heads from their rectums to get on with the more important things in life ... such as enjoying it and taking the moments for their future reflections ... yes, life is too short.

I dont want to stick my nose in here with my opinion but I will anyway. I have said for a long time that we have some quite influential people in quite important jobs making decisions on a lot of things and you know what they are of Middle Eastern Background. Now before you go and attack me I am not being racist it is purely an observation I have been on to for a while -- ok paranoid maybe but have a look at it.