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The Forum > General Discussion > Has Sweden's COVID response lost its allure as a poster child of the right yet?

Has Sweden's COVID response lost its allure as a poster child of the right yet?

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More information that most of you won't want to see, let alone accept....

1. "CDC says COVID-19 cases in U.S. may be 10 times higher than reported".... http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-says-covid-19-cases-u-s-may-be-10-n1232134

If true, or even close, that takes the Infection Fatality Rate down to normal flu levels.

2. "the deaths now attributed to COVID-19 might be grossly exaggerated.".... http://issuesinsights.com/2020/06/25/falling-covid-19-death-rates-are-even-smaller-than-they-look/

I've talked about this before and the evidence just keeps growing.

Interestingly, when you look at the CDC data on total deaths from all causes for the first 24 weeks of each of the last 4 years, the numbers are remarkably similar. 2020 currently has more deaths than the previous years but not by anything like the much quoted 130000+ and when changes in population numbers are taken into account it is basically tied with the last bad flu season of 2018.

Someone here was saying over two months ago that it would be just be the equivalent of a bad flu season...who was that?
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 26 June 2020 12:17:07 PM
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lies, lies and statistics but inly when it suites the narrative. Just ask Joe.
Posted by runner, Friday, 26 June 2020 12:23:06 PM
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Hi Runner,

Yes, just ask me: how does the Government Competence Rate in Australia comp-are with that of the US, using the Covid death-rate as a surrogate ?

Thanks for asking: Australia has had 104 deaths; the US, with 14 times the population, should have had about 1456 deaths if it had been run on the same lines of efficiency, but so far it has a death rate of 123,000. Eighty four times as much as it could have had.

Of course, Australia may have a few more deaths, but with the upturn in cases in the US, what are the odds that it will hit 200,000 before Australia hits 200 ?

Is that what you mean, Runner ?

No problems, just ask away.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Friday, 26 June 2020 4:01:15 PM
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considering the 'experts' in the US said 2 million deaths Joe, then even know each death is a tragedy 200000 seems reasonable. Then again its how you play the stats. Here in Aussie the State with the most draconian lock down laws is doing the worse by far. Seems most are blaming Andrews not Morrison. Mind you those totally 'competent' democrat mayors never put a foot wrong. Sending covid patients into old peoples home was a brilliant decision. Just ask the Mayor of New York.
Posted by runner, Friday, 26 June 2020 4:06:49 PM
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"Government Competence Rate in Australia comp-are with that of the US, using the Covid death-rate as a surrogate"

Oh so we are judging governments on their WuFlu deaths? Well that must mean that East Timor's government is world class.

As well as Zimbabwe's - all hail the successors of the great Mugabe.

And let's not forget the exemplary government in Mongolia - a world leading government class since Genghis Khan.

All places have had zero deaths.

Or we could show a little more nuance and understand that comparing any two places based on one (highly disputed) metric is bonkers.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 26 June 2020 4:21:49 PM
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Even though each death is a tragedy, (drum roll, crocodile tears) 200,000 deaths seems reasonable, did I say reason-na-bull, yes I did (drum roll, more crocodile tears). Did I say 500,000 deaths...did I say reason-na-bull, yes I did (drum roll, more crocodile tears). Did I say 1,000,000 deaths...did I say reason-na-bull, yes I did (drum roll, more crocodile tears).

Runner you are a phoney who is full of it, you are a typical Trumpster, you, like Trump have no real concern for the dead at all. Where is your Christianity now? Up you know where!
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 26 June 2020 5:01:38 PM
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