Paul as a foremost member of the batshit crazy pedogreens, it is unsurprising that you forget the people that actually control the corona virus response in each state which is the governors. The two states which are doing the worst have democratic governors.

In the EU the left whinge Sweden is doing far worse than anyone else and the other left whinge EU governments aren't faring much better.

So far it is fair to say that conservative leaders are no worse than left whinge leaders.

Chris lewis,
I mostly agree with you.

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To all and sundry,

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According to the US Census Bureau, the “white only” population in the USA in 2017 represented 72.3% of the total population – which means that “coloured” represented 27.7%.

And, according to the statistics regarding “people shot to death by U.S. police, by race” in 2019 : of a total of 802 victims whose ethnicity was identified, 370 (46%) were white and 432 (54%) were “coloured”. There were an additional 202 people of “unknown” ethnicity shot dead by police that same year.

Black people (alone) represented 29.3% of total victims shot by police in 2019. Whereas the black population (alone) represented only 12.7% of the total US population.

Here are the references :

Population of the USA broken down by ethnicity :

https://archive.vn/20200213005659/https://factfinder.census.gov/bkmk/table/1.0/en/ACS/17_1YR/B03002/0100000US

Statistics of people shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2017-2020 :

http://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/
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In addition, here is a Pew Research survey entitled “Race in America 2019” :

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019/04/09/race-in-america-2019/?utm_source=Pew+Research+Center&utm_campaign=d930a0a729-Weekly_2020_06_06&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_3e953b9b70-d930a0a729-400724381
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Considering it more than likely that “human qualities” and “human defects” are fairly evenly distributed throughout the US population – irrespective of political partisanship – the outgoing president will probably have difficulty rallying many of his supporters to his cause on 3 November due to his persistent lack of personal integrity, tolerance, respect, humanity and compassion, which many of them not only consider unnecessary but even unsupportable – to the point of being inacceptable.

His manners, and methods risk to weigh heavily in the balance in the final count – particularly if, faithful to their convictions, many Republicans prefer to choose abstention rather than betraying their party by voting Democrat.

But, of course, none of that necessarily means that Donald Trump will not be re-elected president of the United States. Given their crazy electoral system, anything is possible – even a repeat of the 2016 election.

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Shadow, you seem to think there is some differentiation in American politics, there is not, its not democratic, it is a one party system with two arms playing at democracy. This Biden character is simply a Trump lite, give him power and little would change. Possibly Biden would appear to be more reasonable, but more reasonable at what? Will America cease to be the belligerent world super power it is, no, I think not, war on Americas enemies will still be a priority. Social division within the US will still be rife under Biden, as it is under Trump. What will change? If I was an American, come November I would not bother voting given the choices. Lat time around only 60% of eligible voters bothered, I can see why.

Paul, I think there are still important differences in the US.

You only need to look at Pew polls to see the immense cleavages between republic and democrat voters on many issues, also represented by the party stance.

Yes, there are also many similarities due to the need to take account of the international economic and political imperatives.

But, at the moment, I don't see any other nation filling in any void caused by a US collapse, although I don't see that possibility eventuating anyway.

The worst case scenario will be greater Chinese influence, but the world dividing with Western nations departing from various international institutions if need be

Foxy wrote passionately about " the 169 Federal Lawsuits filed against Trump".

Well actually they weren't filed AGAINST Trump, they were filings that mentioned Trump.So the 169 included filings where Trump was doing the suing, or filings where Trump was merely a secondary witness (eg the producers of Trump's TV show were sued and he was mentioned). At least half were Trump suing others. And some were mere frivolous lawsuits by nutters..."was filed in December by Federick Banks — who says he is an American Indian Witch. He also sued the CIA director."

Oh and all this occurred before he was prsident.

So Foxy was passionate but completely INACCURATE. Now the question becomes was she inaccurate because all this is too much for her to understand (ie she's a dope) or was she straight up lying? (note that she didn't offer a link which suggests she had something to hide).

Speaking of hypocrites.."Sociopaths never answer to facts:
they always attack the messenger." Pot, meet Mr Kettle.

I don't expect a factual response....perhaps more scatological ad hominems which is her favoured for of defence when found out.

mhaze,

One sure thing though: Get rid of Trump and the world will be a much nicer place.

No one in their right mind would disagree with that.