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Pauline`s New Party - Have your Say

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Paulines united party!There's nothing united about that woman.Makes me ashamed to be female or human for that matter.
Posted by haygirl, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 7:32:50 AM
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Dear dear CJ....oh naive one.... oh romantic, idealistic, but totally ignorant one :) thats not a "put down", -ignorant of history.

I recommend stronggggly that you have a peek at this, and place yourself in mind of the American Indian around the time when it was becoming clear that 'white man' was getting 'strong to the point of danger'
See, touch, hear, identify, enter into... the hearts of the Indian..and ask yourself a simple question "If I knew then, what I know now, how would I have done things different re the white man"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJmbSTY41jI&mode=related&search=

Listen to the 'noble' words of Andrew Jackson "forever yours" and then.. see how the dark forces of human settler greed overcame that nobiity.... and we saw the 'ALLOTMENT ACT'...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C8i6y4wHyg&mode=related&search=

This is the way human societies function, sadly.. but it's reality then, and reality now.. you can flip out the 'racism' or 'xenophobia' card as much as you like.. I am invulnerable to that.. there is no political kryptonite, why ? because I know history and I know human nature.

If you think migrants are any different from 'us' and that we are any different from the 'American Settlers'.. then .. you are truly a historical....'boy' rather than a man.

Grow up CJ... see the realities rather than exchanging mutual warm fuzzies over a latte in Lygon street.

"We" are whoever those with sufficient clout define it to be.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 7:54:44 AM
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What is that cranking sound I can hear ?

Ahhh yes it is the media anti Pauline bandwagon starting up !
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 8:00:13 AM
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CJ, no its not compulsory to speak english in public, but given that its the official language of the country, then if you want people to make the assumption that you are Australian, the very least you can do is speak the official language. I have quibble that being multi-lingual is a great skill and one that should be offered to more school children in this country. Australians are great travellers of the world and a second or third language would be a great asset to many. I had a fair crack at Indonesian in primary school when it was compulsory, and a sister was pretty good at both indonesian and japanese, travelling to both countries as part of her language studies. We also hosted Japanese exchange students as part of the language program.

But back to the argument at hand. I have the same opinion about your italian neighbours who have been here for decades. If you want to be considered an Australian, then make it your business to speak english in public. Then you'll find far less Australians who judge you as being a foreign national.

Along similar lines, anyone with dual citizenship should be regarded with suspicion (and I include those with dual british citizenship, so dont accuse me of being a white racist). As far as I am concerned you are either a citizen of this country or of another - Australia either comes first or it doesnt.
Posted by Country Gal, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 9:30:56 AM
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Boazy, you really are an offensive goose sometimes. How on earth you can draw a parallel between the invasion of North America, the massacre of Native Americans and their shameful expropriation from their lands, and the legal migration of people of whom you don't happen to approve to Australia? If you wanted to draw a parallel, it would be between the invasion of Australia by the "Anglo-Celtic" forebears whom you celebrate, and their massacres of Aboriginal people and ongoing expropriation of Aboriginal lands.

I've probably forgotten more about the history of European dispossession of Indigenous peoples than you'll ever know. However, if you're proud to be a racist - and an ignorant one at that - then that's your cross to bear, preacher.

Country Gal - While you might prefer that all Australians speak English in public, clearly many Australians don't always do so. Whether you like it or not, some Australians speak other languages in public and have every right to do so. They also have every bit as much right to live here as you do, and may not give two hoots whether you ar anybody else regards them as "less Australian" than you are.

This 'more Assie than thou' crap is far more divisive than anything I've seen emanating from our immigrant communities.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 10:40:59 AM
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It is obvious that Pauline Hanson has formed her new party to make it easier for people to vote for her. They will only have to mark one box above the line wheras if her name was below the line, as previous, they have to fill in every square. Others make use of this quirk of electoral law, so she is entitled to do so.

For thoses that say she is doing it only to gain money from the electoral funding. Consider that her travel, accomodation, office rental, printing of how-to-vote sheets, corflutes and other election expenses will come from that funding. This may leave precious little left. Why should she be the only candidate being questioned about receival of electoral funding? Just another personal attack.

As I have said before, we need more Pauline Hansons, both left, right and centre. I cannot vote for her, being inter state, but I wish her well.
Posted by Banjo, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 1:27:20 PM
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