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Pauline`s New Party - Have your Say
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Posted by Country Gal, Monday, 27 August 2007 10:53:24 AM
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- concerns over the aboriginal population: Hanson spoke out about special treatment for aboriginal communities. Many aboriginal leaders/commentators have since done similar (eg lambasted the government over not intervening in child abuse cases). Hanson wasnt particularly good at conveying the good intentions behind her messages - mainly the bad ones got through! But consider that treatment of aboriginies as normal australians is overall a good intention. All Australians should be free to practise their cultural heritage (so long as the practices fit into the morals of the general population - eg no mutiliation etc). All Australians should have the right to live where they like in the country. All australians should have the right to basic services even if they have to be provided with travel assistance in order to access those services. There doesnt need to be specially targeted programs for aboriginal australians, but programs overall might need to be expanded to provide the right type and level of assistance particularly to people living in remote areas (both black and white). Hanson isnt a polished lawyer like most of our policitians. But I see that as a good thing. Whilst I dont think she nor any party that she gets up should be in power, it doesnt hurt to have the likes of her on the fringes of politics, the same way that the democrats and greens, whilst not being mainstream, are able to contribute to overall debate. Posted by Country Gal, Monday, 27 August 2007 11:00:28 AM
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James Purser,
You either just don't get it or you can't cope with facts. How did you contract this allergy to reality ? Is killing in self defence murder! What if you're already a muderer & you are defending youself ? No-one wants to get killed, good people or bad. Anyhow, as this thread is about Pauline's new party I urge you to read this party's policies. Oh & btw, after you've read these policies could you please let us all know which are the racist ones ? I am not a member of this party but their policies do convince me that they are far more pragmatic than any of the major parties. Oh, if you are indingenous what are your thoughts on immigration. Would you welcome more people from Africa, Asia or Europe. I would dearly love to know an indigenous person's view on that. google 'unitedaustraliaparty.com' Posted by individual, Monday, 27 August 2007 5:15:11 PM
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Hi Everybody
Many of your comments are interesting. Well at least nobody can acuse me of gate crashing this thread. I dont know Pauline`s Animal Welfare policy or if she is to have one. We would hope so. If any of you have information regarding that we would appreciate your letting us know. The old party One Nation have a Ban Live Export and Intensive Farming policy for those of you who may be interested. Country Girl I have read a few comments on different threads written by you. I must say we are impressed by your knowledge and fair comments throughout. Have you ever considered Journo work.? best wishes from the crew at pale Well done! Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Monday, 27 August 2007 5:39:15 PM
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individual,
Dear $DEITY_OF_CHOICE, that site is a complete dogs breakfast. If this is the page you were referring to? http://unitedaustraliaparty.com/policies.html I have no aversion to reality, its just that your reality does not mesh with mine. I live in a reality that says discriminating against someone because of where they were born or lived is about as sane as standing on one leg and singing the International while signing the oath of allegiance to the US. As to which of Pauline Hansons policies are racist? Hmm lets see, banning the Aboriginal flag, banning islamic immigration (because by and large it bans middle eastern and south east asian people), an underlying feeling that everything foreign is some how evil or dangerous. Hows that for a start? Posted by James Purser, Monday, 27 August 2007 6:17:22 PM
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James Purser,
I didn't realise you weren't Australian. Not a patriotic one anyway. Still, I think many on this forum would be interested to hear your views as to where you'd like see more immigration from ? Do they still encourage emigration from your planet or were you the prototype & on that account they abandoned the idea. Tell me, how much immigration is there to islamic & asian countries? Do these countries treat their indigenous better than Australia ? Do they encourage newcomers to form minorty groups & provide social support to them so they can continue to bite the hand that feeds them ? I would be very interested in some statistics. I do not believe that the average Australian gives a hoot where people come from to settle here. I still have to hear an indigenous person's view on that. Where people here get annoyed is when people come to australia under the pretence of getting away from suppressive regimes etc but once here the first thing they do is to recreate their former existance. And, what's more, try & impose it on everyone else. Why on earth leave a place when you don't want change ? Don't you realise that the society & infrastructure you come to was created by the very people & the culture you seem to view with contempt. If people feel that they're not welcome in Australia why don't they emigrate to the middle east or an asian country. Why don't they ? You tell us ! Posted by individual, Monday, 27 August 2007 7:47:01 PM
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- limitation of immigration:
Much has been directed at groups of immigrants. A lot of this appears based on concern over inherent values and issues of living standards. Eg traditionally the chinese have lived boxed-in in their cities, and generally in slum conditions. Whilst these might not be the people that are immigrating to Australia, one of the basic fears (that I dont think was well conveyed) was that with large number of people immigrating that were happy to live in what we consider to be sub-standard conditions, that we would all suffer a slide as a result. With those from the middle-east a lot of concern hinges on attitudes towards women and towards other cultural/religious groups. These are valid concerns (particularly for those of middle-eastern descent), and should require that we carefully vet immigrants. Its called risk-management.
- anti-globalisation:
This appears to be another of Hanson's concerns (although perhaps not directly expressed in that context). Globalisation could potentially be beneficial. However Australia suffers from it, as we have dropped most of our trade barriers, whilst many of our trading partners have not