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Pauline`s New Party - Have your Say

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Dresdener, so why are you so angry at non white people?
Posted by Rainier, Sunday, 26 August 2007 9:55:09 PM
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James purser,
I don't know what you do for a living or what your contribution is to help make a better society. I really don't think you're doing any good at all with statements like "Well Pauline doesn't seem to worried about Asian immigration now a days. She's moved on to the latest "hate of the week". And yes, by definition, it is racist to demand that one group be excluded based on their race. "
Aren't you constantly attacking white australians based on their race ? When i "rant" about my experiences I express what is going on in the so-called "discriminated against" indigenous comunities. I see racism towards whites from indigenous Australians everyday.. When I say that you don't experience everyday life I mean exactly that or do you see it too but think nothing of it ?. Am I now a racist because I state a fact ? Well, I must be, because when Pauline stated facts you branded her a racist too. I re-read her maiden speech in parliament but can't find anything racist in it. By the way, which line in her speech is the "racist" one ?
Posted by individual, Sunday, 26 August 2007 10:06:55 PM
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Pauline Hanson raises issues that strikes fear into people that feel insecure and are pretty basic in their emotions. The Australian electorate are politically niave and when it comes to election time those on the right who not give a damn for the weak or unserprivelidged raise the scapegoat argument. America has it today. We should all praise -Harry Belafonte who shows racists up for what they are. He is todays Political and humanitarian activist
Belafonte's political beliefs are greatly inspired by the man that he still views to this day as his mentor, singer and activist Paul Robeson.

Like Robeson and other African-American entertainers, Belafonte's success in the arts did not protect him from racial discrimination, particularly in the South of the United States. As a result, he refused to perform in the South of the U.S. from 1954 until 1961. In 1960, President John F. Kennedy named Belafonte as cultural advisor to the Peace Corps. Belafonte was an early supporter of the Civil Rights Movement in the 1950s and one of Martin Luther King's confidants. He provided for King's family, since King made only 8000 dollars a year as a preacher. Like many Civil Rights activists he was blacklisted during the McCarthy era. He bailed Martin Luther King out of the Birmingham City Jail and raised thousands of dollars to release other imprisoned Civil Rights protesters. He financed the Freedom Rides, supported voter-registration drives, and helped to organize the March on Washington in 1963.

In 1985, he was one of the organizers behind the Grammy Award winning song "We Are the World," a multi-artist effort to raise funds for Africa, and performed in the Live Aid concert that same year. We need more people like Harry Belafonte and less of the likes of Pauline Hanson who should be in GAOL.
Posted by Bronco Lane, Monday, 27 August 2007 12:25:38 AM
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individual,

No I am not attacking "white" Australians based on their race. I don't play the "one person does it, so everyone of that race does it" game. I take each person as they come and if I believe that person is doing the wrong thing, I will call it.

Pauline Hansons maiden speach to parliament is interesting. In it she lambasts the UN for not providing enough support from African hospitals, then in the same paragraph she demands that Australia stop all foreign aid. She trots out the national service line, demands that we withdraw from the international economy and conveys the thought that everyone nation in our region is just waiting for us to turn our backs so they can invade.

The most obviously "racist" line is the "swamped by asians" line. The more subtle stuff comes with the attacks on ATSIC and aboriginals. She wanted to stop all native title, programmes to help aboriginal people (such as they were) and "main stream them". She obviously sees things in black and white, which is all fine and well, however real life isn't in black and white, its in shades of grey.
Posted by James Purser, Monday, 27 August 2007 6:35:45 AM
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Bronco lane & james Purser,
no-one would argue the points re Harry Belafonte & Raul Robeson. What happened to many of the Africans who were taken & used as slaves was unforgiveable. It is just as unforgiveable of many of those slaves' relatives who sold them to the traders. What about the many who suffered under all the other powers like the Romans, Ghengis Khan, the Cossacks & the list goes on.
Let's get back to Pauline. Yes the australian electorate is naive in the way that they only think about the wellbeing of themselves rather than the nation. You mention JFK re H. Belafonte. Do recall when JFK said "ask not what your country can do for you. ask what you can do for your country". Buckley's with that in Oz eh ? Foreign aid from Australia should not go both ways i.e. send money AND take in people from those countries which receive aid. You either let the people in (has anybody ever asked the indiginous here whom they prefer to come here ?) or you aid them back in their country. Swamped by Asians ? What number of people makes swamped ? How many Europeans get citizenship in asian countries ? Got any figures ? Shades of grey you say ? I personally believe that society needs rules that are black & white because it's the shades of grey that cause so many problems as it is impossible to cover every little angle. When you allow peoples' every whim you get anarchy. A "free society" does not mean free for all. It means everone is free to pull his/her own weight & not to freely take what others had to work & pay for.
Btw. land itself was not created by the efforts of it's inhabitants.
Posted by individual, Monday, 27 August 2007 8:17:33 AM
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So you believe in black and white do you? Okay, its illegal to kill someone. Thats pretty black and white. Do you think that you are entitled to kill in self defence? If you were attacked and the only way of not being killed yourself is to kill the other person, should you be charged and convicted with murder?
Posted by James Purser, Monday, 27 August 2007 8:26:56 AM
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