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What if its all for nothing

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"You said nothing when democrat mayors encouraged hundreds of thousands to gather for Chinese new year claiming Trump was racist in suggesting isolation."

Now runner, since you have made me aware of this ridiculous nonsense regarding Democrat Mayors in the United States, I'll give you my opinion. Fools endangering the lives of thousands.

Now I'll give you my opinion of those bible bashing bastards in Kansas. Fools endangering the lives of thousands.

Would you like to comment on the BBB's? You said nothing about them, just a bit of defection as usual.

BTW The wife enjoyed an online church service yesterday morning, conducted by her minister, through the church YouTube channel, nothing wrong with that.

Gauss who had to show her how to find it? ME!
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 6 April 2020 11:47:03 AM
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Over the weekend China has been appointed to a panel on the UN Human Rights Council, despite its own ongoing human rights abuses. On this panel, China will represent Asia-Pacific states, which INCLUDES AUSTRALIA. Ye Gods!
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 6 April 2020 2:38:46 PM
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ttbn,

About bloody time! At last the UN recognises that Australia has a Chinese future as well.

We're all going to be united in China's Asia-Pacific Empire. Ni Hao Mate! Stone the bloody Wuhan bats cobber! Fair Dim Sum Mate!
Posted by Mr Opinion, Monday, 6 April 2020 3:34:25 PM
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Dear mhaze,

I have had a chance to track down your week 12 bulletin which you said stated "no increased mortality is observed in the reported mortality figures for the COVID-19 affected countries."

Well it turns out you have yet again chosen to shamelessly cherry pick a statement that had been heavily qualified in the original article.

“Some wonder why no increased mortality is observed in the reported mortality figures for the COVID-19 affected countries.
The answer is that increased mortality that may occur primarily at subnational level or within smaller focal areas, and/or concentrated within smaller age groups, may not be detectable at the national level, even more so not in the pooled analysis at European level, given the large total population denominator. Furthermore, there is always a few weeks of delay in death registration and reporting. Hence, the EuroMOMO mortality figures for the most recent weeks must be interpreted with some caution.
Therefore, although increased mortality may not be immediately observable in the EuroMOMO figures, this does not mean that increased mortality does not occur in some areas or in some age groups, including mortality related to COVID-19.”
http://web.archive.org/web/20200329153053/http://www.euromomo.eu/index.html

Nasty habit of yours old boy, do consider dialling it back a little.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 6 April 2020 3:43:27 PM
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The Diamond Princess is an interesting study in this regard. The vessel was like a little controlled experiment on the lethality of the Wuhan Virus. People sailing around in close proximity to others who had the virus. It effectively became an unintentional virus incubator.Additionally all but of a few of the people on board were tested so we got a full picture of this microcosm on society.

There were over 4000 people on board. Of those only 17.5% actually caught the virus. Of those almost half (334) were asymptomatic. Seven people died - all aged over 70. The fatality rate for those who had the virus was 1.8% falling to 0.91% for who had symptoms. 0.17% of all those on board died. But old people were over-represented on board as compared to US/Australian society. So extrapolating into the broader community the fatality rate based on these numbers would be in the range 0.025% to 0.625% with the calculate rate of 0.125%.

This gets us in the same area as the fatality rate for influenza.

At the outset, WHO was giving a fatality rate of 3.4%. It was this number, which is now shown to be completely wrong, that was originally fed into models to achieve the early dire death numbers. Additionally it was originally thought that each case transmitted the disease to 8-10 others. This is now more likely to be 3-4 others. Again these numbers fed into models give highly exaggerated death rates.

So this issue returns. What if we and much of the world panicked into adopting policies based on erroneous models using erroneous numbers.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 6 April 2020 4:23:20 PM
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Some have suggested that China could be sued for hiding the existance
of the corona virus until it couldn't be hidden any longer.
Many said that is a nonsense, China would just ignore any claim.
Then I remembered, US law enables a litigant to sue a foreign government
and if, in this case, China ignored the court's decision orders to seize
any assets of that country in the US can be enforced.
Now China has a lot of assets in western countries, so there would be
plenty of targets.
Perhaps we need a law like that.
Case record, someone sued Saudi Arabia over 9/11 but could not prove that
the Saudi government was involved.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 6 April 2020 4:31:35 PM
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