Well, this is good: I wouldn't like to live under the rule of the Roman Empire!

" Cities were often walled, but rarely entire countries."

In fact NEVER entire countries. The only way to stop people coming into your country was to ensure that they got such a thrashing for doing so that they wouldn't do it for a generation or three. And if you couldn't give such a thrashing then they'd just keep coming. In the end that's what happened to the western empire - they stopped being able to discourage incursions into the empire.

"with walls along the Scottish and Danish borders."
Danish borders? I'm not saying its not true but I'm unaware of such a wall. More information please Aidan.

So, some people ar more concerned about the accuracy of the Roman Empire list than they are in our own list and where we are headed. Par for the course. Anything to to avoid having a good look at your society and yourselves. The Romans had the same attitude and used the same avoidance techniques.

I am not sure if the Romans killed their unborn like we so today. Certainly the homosexual lifestyle seemed to be shoved down people's throats like today. If you can't 'celebrate' it you are considered a bigot, hater, etc etc

Always amuses me that some of those practicing the lifestyle shove it down everyone's throat and then complains about any pushback.

ttbn,

It was your list. You used the Roman list to give your's a veneer of scholarship and are now pissed off that that veneer is very transparent.

If you didn't want the Roman list to be the centre-piece of your assertions then you shouldn't have used it.

Yes, the West has its problems. But it remains the greatest civilisation to have ever existed and it remains by far the strongest societal system in the world today.

I notice one of your laments is the white-anting of the civilisation. Mr Pot let me introduce your to Mr Kettle.

mhaze,
I've checked and found I was wrong - the Roman Empire didn't extend to the Danish border; the border fortifications there were more recent.

However the Roman Empire did have other fortified borders, in Europe, Africa and Arabia.