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Morrison failing the pub test.

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It seems the fiery who gave Morrison a serve from his truck while fighting the recent fires near Canberra won't have to by himself a beer for a while. The Steampacket Hotel in Nelligen has had a stream of people coming in and putting money over the bar for him.

As Jason Clare MP said in parliament today, Morrison has failed the pub test.
http://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/he-said-what-the-rest-of-us-were-thinking-firefighter-who-sprayed-pm-sees-free-beers-flow-in-20200214-p540rt.html
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 14 February 2020 5:39:09 PM
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Hi Steele,

The whole ScumO' government has failed the pub test. They are more interested in getting what they can for themselves than in anyway serving the people. The Nationals whose constituency is so badly affected by bushfires and floods is so engrossed with infighting and backstabbing they have no time to govern. In a political sense their half wit leader McCormack is dead man walking. The Church rort, $110,000 of taxpayer money misused by Morrison's happy clapping church! Millions of dollars corruptly used for pork barrelling on a grand scale with 'Sports Rorts'. We had Coalition dis-functionality, under Abbott, then Turnbull and now Morrison. Australia is going to pay a very high price for electing these clowns to stuff the government.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 15 February 2020 5:11:13 PM
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From a nelligen resident.
He's now the Ned Kelly of Nelligen! ........ would be more ........... :-)

Only Labor voters could be so wharped to blame a Prime Minister for their own mistakes !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 15 February 2020 6:14:46 PM
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What? Do people who keep saying that something doesn't pass the 'pub test' really think that what a bunch slurring drunks in a pub think and say is important?
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 15 February 2020 6:27:36 PM
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I assume this video has gone viral worldwide and I bet the whole world is saying "Go on Paul Parker of Nelligen, give to that low-life scumbag!"
Posted by Mr Opinion, Saturday, 15 February 2020 6:43:01 PM
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If Steelie, Paul and Mr O are displaying their hatred against ScoMO he must be doing something right. They all remind me of their regressive mate Jossie Smollet.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 15 February 2020 7:06:58 PM
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runner,

No, wrong again! You seem to make a habit of being wrong.

I was just speculating on what people around the world think of Soot 'Beam up me Scotty' Morrison.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Saturday, 15 February 2020 7:21:30 PM
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It would just be a little refreshing Mr O if you mob just come straight out and admitted your hatred for Morrison rather than hiding behind fools who think Morrison can stop bushfires or change the climate by adopting the foolish gw religion. I notice none of the foolish idiots thanked Morrison for the rain of late. Why not? I think my dead pet dog has better reasoning school than regressive haters.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 15 February 2020 7:32:39 PM
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Morrison will win the next election, in fact I'm putting money on him again.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 15 February 2020 7:51:48 PM
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Scott Morrison deserved the criticism he got;
- And NSW volunteer fire fighter Paul Parker deserves all the free beer he can drink.

- "Tell the Prime Minister to go and get f--ked from Nelligen..."

That's gold.
You just can't put a price on that level of REAL reality TV.
And you can't argue with anything he said either:

"A real man wouldn't have left his country when it was in turmoil," he said. "Bob Hawke wouldn't have left, and Malcolm Fraser and John Howard wouldn't have left, either."

You can't beat that.
How's ScoMo going to respond?

Stand there and make some asshat mealy mouthed response?
He can't say squat because it's all true.

- Someone's got to keep our idiot leaders in the real world -

That bloke gets my vote for an Order of Australia medal.
His should be recognised for his national service.
- In telling the PM how it is, not the fire fighting.

For the fire fighting, well they all deserve a medal for that.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 15 February 2020 8:53:06 PM
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"Morrison will win the next election, in fact I'm putting money on him again."

Well of course he will.
No sane person could even consider any of the other options.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 15 February 2020 8:55:31 PM
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For some it may be worth the risk of starting a fire for the accolades in the Pub later on !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 15 February 2020 9:07:45 PM
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I think Morrison has very little chance of winning the next election. The real question is whether or not his party will let him keep his job long enough to lose to Albo!

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runner, please note the above comment is based on form not hatred.

> I notice none of the foolish idiots thanked Morrison for the rain of late. Why not?
As their representative, how about you tell us?
Posted by Aidan, Saturday, 15 February 2020 10:03:32 PM
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Soot "Beam up me Scotty' Morrison is the most disliked person in Australia.

I cannot see the LNP winning the next election if Soot is at the helm.

I think there are a lot in the Liberal Party who are talking behind his back but the only thing holding them back is the new requirement that it needs at least 70% of their numbers to move a spill. Otherwise I think he would be sitting in the back benches.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 16 February 2020 6:18:03 AM
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Scomo is corrupt. How else can you explain his actions.
His tenure is finished and should be dismissed from parliament with no pension. Getting caught cooking the community books for political gain is despicable and should be shot at pre dawn never to see the light of another day.
Posted by Riely, Sunday, 16 February 2020 6:42:35 AM
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The unreasonables are getting narcky again !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 16 February 2020 7:13:47 AM
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individual,

It's obvious that Soot 'Beam up me Scotty' Morrison has your total support because you believe his actions re the bushfires and the sports rorts are beyond reproach.

I bet I know where Paul Parker of Nelligen would like to tell people like you to go!
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 16 February 2020 7:30:02 AM
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BREAKING NEWS: people who hated Morrison before the election, still hate him.

People who fell for the anti-Lib media hype before the election, still fall for it.

People who can't come to terms with the reality of the last election, entertain fantasies about the outcome of the next election.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 16 February 2020 8:04:59 AM
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mhaze,

Did God tell you that just like he told you that people do not cause global warming?
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 16 February 2020 8:26:34 AM
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The left will never get it right !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 16 February 2020 11:05:12 AM
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individual,

You are an absolute poet with your "The left will never get it right !"

Let me guess: "The right will never get it left !"

You are an absolute literary genius.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 16 February 2020 11:21:04 AM
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The looney left will hate and sneer at ANY Coalition Prime Minister - not just Morrison. Despite their childish aping of US nutty Democrats and their hatred of Trump, the majority of sane Australians have voted for a Coalition government, irrespective of who led it, at the last three elections.

And, that's what Green Labor really hates.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 16 February 2020 12:01:00 PM
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ttbn,

Let's be honest. What do you really think of Soot 'Beam up me Scotty' Morrison?

Put the politics to one side and tell us what you really think. Do you really think in light of his bushfires fiasco and his role in the sports rorts that he is a fit and proper person to hold the office of prime minister?

Paul Parker of Nelligen definitely doesn't think so!
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 16 February 2020 2:34:04 PM
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Dear mhaze,

It that drivel the best you can do?

Come on mate, this bloke is on the nose with a large chunk of Australians whether they voted for him or not but all you can do is trot out the old 'them haters' poppycock.

If your infatuation with this tosser is that great you will not brook the slightest criticism of him then you are a mindless minion.

Get real.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 16 February 2020 8:50:04 PM
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The government continues to lie about the 'Sports Rorts' scandal. Morrison lies when he says "All projects were eligible" a blatant lie repeated today by Deputy Dog McCormack and yesterday by Cormann.

Under questioning from Liberal Senator Eric Abetz, audit office executive Brian Boyd revealed that 290 - or 43 per cent - of the successful applications were actually ineligible.

Given the truth from Brian Boyd, why are the scum bags continuing to lie to the Australian people?
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 16 February 2020 9:28:06 PM
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'Sports Rorts'
Paul1405,
In your opportunistic feigned indignation/pure hatred language ! In normal language it translates into making "mountains out of Ant hills".
Posted by individual, Sunday, 16 February 2020 10:36:01 PM
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When looking at the various opinions people have about Soot 'Beam up me Scotty' Morrison we need to keep in mind that Soot has a lot in common with the usual suspects like mhaze, ttbn, individual, Hasbeen, Loudmouth, Bazz, etc., in that they are all religious zealots who put God above all other things. These deeply religious people think and act differently to us who have a rational scientific view of the world.

I don't see how much longer the Liberals will be able to support Soot. I definitely cannot see them winning the next election with him at the helm. He is the most disliked PM in Australian political history. I reckon that God even now sees him as 'someone who feeds the chooks'.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Monday, 17 February 2020 1:11:19 AM
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Yes Indy, as someone themselves sucking off the taxpayer welfare teat as part of the $20 billion Aged Pension, I can see how $250 million is small beer to someone like you.

Mr O "He is the most disliked PM in Australian political history" Even more disliked that The Mad Monk, or Little Johnny Howard who lost his seat? Maybe.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 17 February 2020 8:05:13 AM
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WELL TRUE TO FORM THIS IS A HATE PAGE! No a discussion!
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 17 February 2020 8:28:55 AM
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Dear Josephus,

Nah mate, it's true to form when you have zero arguments to make that you dive for the hyperbole.

I don't hate the bloke. I think he is a clown and that what the Libs got up to with rorting sporting grants was reprehensible. I, and a hell of a lot of other Australians, felt he didn't show adequate leadership during the bushfire crisis. No one here claims otherwise from either side.

What I don't get is why you seem to be condoning what he did. Why? And what kind of discussion where you hoping for? One where one side takes the position that he is doing a great job? Well guess what, not one single person posting here has defended him. Rather those on your side of politics have been busily shooting the messenger or using the term haters to deflect.

What you seem to want is absolutely zero criticism of Morrison. I know he is a sterling God botherer like yourself so you are loathe to brook and charge against him but that isn't how it works. We are not in one of your churches where the priest is one of the anointed, never to be challenged.

Perhaps you should reflect on why it is that the word 'hate' so quickly and easily rolls off the tongue of people like yourself and runner. The answer is pretty obvious.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 17 February 2020 8:43:24 AM
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Maybe if Laborites spent less time in the pub and more time in the real world they would get less flogged at election time.

From what I have heard the fireman in question was an obnoxious prick to far more people than just the PM, and his tirade was just the last straw.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 17 February 2020 9:01:07 AM
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"From what I have heard the fireman in question was an obnoxious prick to far more people than just the PM, and his tirade was just the last straw."

And he was probably pissed at the time. It's hard to believe that a normal, sober person would make such an arse of himself on national TV. He fell out of the truck just after his tirade. It is significant that his reward from admirers of his yokelism was free beer.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 17 February 2020 9:11:45 AM
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PS.

Notably, all the outraged left whingers bemoaning the vulgar fireman's suspension are the same halfwits that wanted Folau sacked for posting a quote from the bible on twitter.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 17 February 2020 9:13:17 AM
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$20 billion Aged Pension
Paul1405,
Is that all ? Hardly worth mentioning considering how much the Public Service Superannuation schemes are costing us !
Posted by individual, Monday, 17 February 2020 10:06:32 AM
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SR,

"It that drivel the best you can do?"

Well drivel is in the eye of the beholder but I bow to your greater expertise in that area.

But its not the best I can do, its the least I had to do to reveal your cant. A coupla blokes venting against this or that pollie means precisely nothing, unless you desperately want it to mean something.

" this bloke is on the nose with a large chunk of Australians"

Yep as he was when he won the election.

"If your infatuation with this tosser... "

I have no love (or hate) of Morrison...I didn't even vote for him.
But I am rather fond of calm evaluation of the facts. You should try it one day.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 17 February 2020 10:09:30 AM
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This morning: it is reported that the creep who abused Morrison on TV then fell out of his fire truck has been kicked out of the service for using foul language.

You would have to be a real no good to be booted out of a voluntary organisation. He must have had form as SM suggested. I wonder if the free beer offer will be withdrawn.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 17 February 2020 10:19:19 AM
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"WELL TRUE TO FORM THIS IS A HATE PAGE! No a discussion!"

- Stay calm Josephus, you're going to be okay.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 17 February 2020 10:41:32 AM
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Dear mhaze,

So this “people who hated Morrison before the election, still hate him.” or this “People who fell for the anti-Lib media hype before the election, still fall for it.” or this “People who can't come to terms with the reality of the last election, entertain fantasies about the outcome of the next election.” is a calm evaluation of the facts?

Not in my book old chap, nor I wager in anyone else's.

So did you agree with Morrison when he claimed those who had up to that point spent three long hard weeks fighting the fires wanted to be there?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 17 February 2020 10:52:17 AM
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Hey ttbn,
Thanks for sharing this.

"This morning: it is reported that the creep who abused Morrison on TV then fell out of his fire truck has been kicked out of the service for using foul language."

What a EFFing joke?
Don't they know what EFFing country this is?

I told you ScoMo couldn't say squat to this.
It's bad publicity all the way on this, like 'cost him an election' type of publicity.

But you see what they do?
They wait until the media cycle on the story dies.
- And then they punish the bloke quiety for daring to tell the truth.
It's a message to others, to set an example to NOT speak out without fear of reprisals.

It's exactly what they're doing with Assange.
- This is how the world really works. -

The guys a hero in my book.
He helped save the town from destruction.
He has the right to say whatever the hell he wants.
This is only because what he said made ScoMo look bad.
If it was good publicity they wouldn't be acting the same way.

I'm absolutely certain there's been plenty of colourful language from fireys over the last few months.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 17 February 2020 10:54:44 AM
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"... nor I wager in anyone else's."

Its quite revealing how you're always anxious to assert that everyone agrees with you. Desperate to be in the majority.

".... is a calm evaluation of the facts?"

Yep. Especially when compared to your desperation to equate a few blokes in a pub with the electorate at large.

"So did you agree with Morrison when he claimed ...."

I didn't really follow the media hysteria over Morrison's failure to put out the fires. Show me the quote and the context and I'll decide if I thought it was fair comment.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 17 February 2020 11:00:38 AM
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AC,

I'm afraid I have to disagree: the bloke is an utterly uncouth moron, as the leadership of his organisation obviously thinks too. He has form. He has a very nasty face, and he has made an absolute dick of himself nationally.

I'm no prude; cussing and swearing is one of my weaknesses. But it's never at anyone or in public. This bloke is an uneducated moron, as are the boozers who offered him free frog for his appalling conduct. He is no hero. To call him one is an insult to those who are.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 17 February 2020 11:26:07 AM
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ttbn quote "From what I can make up the fireman in question was an obnoxious prick" That's more like it.

It was the hard right mob who first used the "pub test", now they hate it being thrown back at them.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 17 February 2020 11:29:22 AM
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The latest news report; PAUL PARKER has not been sacked by the RFS.

ttbn, have you heard if it was that obnoxious ScumO' who tried to get the decent, selfless, volunteer fire fighter PAUL PARKER sacked? It would be the kind of low act ScumO' would stoop to. PAUL PARKER is a hero in the eyes of the majority of Aussies! Three cheers for PAUL PARKER for telling the big you know what, what he thinks of him.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 17 February 2020 11:51:34 AM
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I'm getting third hard facts on this:
I'm told by friends he can't be sacked because he was a volunteer.
But that he was stood down for being a 'drunk'.

My friends opinions lie a little closer to ttbns opinion than mine.
I wonder if they both watch SKY channel.
My friends do.

But I personally still think the guys a hero, had every right to say what he did and deserves all the free beer he can drink, especially now the fires are all out or under control.

My opinion is that every single Aussie that did not help fight the fires owes a debt of gratitude to everyone that did.
- So that's where my position lies.

I couldn't care less if the guys a drunk, (though it would be a concern if his drinking put others lives in danger during the firefighting)
And even more important was that he was a volunteer, and wasn't even taking payment for his community efforts.
This contrasts with ScoMo who wasn't fighting any fires, he was off on holiday whist getting paid a FAT government salary.

I don't care what anyone says to character assassinate the man.
He was on the front line, fought the fires and for that I'm grateful.
He's no less a hero than other firefighters who died risking their lives.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 17 February 2020 12:12:28 PM
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Paul,

So it would appear that the foul mouthed fireman was not fired nor was there any effort to have him fired and the whole episode was complete BS fabricated by the left whingers as a beat up on Morrison.

Paul and SR were two of the suckers to swallow the story hook, line and stinker. Of course if he had quoted the bible, they would happily have had him sacked.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 17 February 2020 12:31:12 PM
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Unlike you Shadow, I get the facts from the ABC and SMH, unlike you I don't rely on crap reports in the Murdoch gutter press 'The Daily Telecrap' put out by 'Beat Up'Bolt.

BTW a couple of years back, you claimed there was a Murdoch news report that an arrest was imminent in the 'Beat Up'Bolt case. It made you look as stupid as always on the forum!
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 17 February 2020 1:24:07 PM
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Shadow Minister,

Let's guess: God told you that it was fabricated.

You religious types won't stop at anything.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Monday, 17 February 2020 1:27:57 PM
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Now he's a drunk: fighting fires and driving a fire truck drunk.

Whether or not that is true, there is no way he is a hero. Heroes are few, and far between. Firefighters, professionals or volunteers, are not heroes. Sportspeople are not heroes. Death by falling branch doesn't make the victim a hero because he was involved in firefighting.

The misuse of the word hero is indicative of our lowering standards and manipulation of language to suit the mood. And it's an insult to the very, very few real heroes who have ever lived.

And, what's this crap about Morrison winning or not winning the next election? One person doesn't win or lose an election. The Coalition needs to win a majority of seats to win, and they can do that, or not, without Morrison, whose fate lies only with the voters in Cook. Only a moron would vote against a good candidate in his own electorate just because he didn't like the party's leader. But, of course, we are not short of morons here, so I wouldn't put money on any result. But, most voters are likely to have views much different from some of the mad posters here, thankfully. It's a known fact that the more people share their views within a small group, the more extreme and crazy they become.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 17 February 2020 3:19:46 PM
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Poor old ttbn, he doesn't even know what side the driver sits in a truck.
"Now he's a drunk: fighting fires and driving a fire truck drunk." PAUL PARKER was the passenger. The nurse will be along with you medication shortly ttbn.

How about ScumO'! The Yankee multi national General Motors gave the ScumO' government 15 minutes notice they were pulling the plug on their Australian Holden operation. That after these fools had poured hundred of millions of dollars into Detroit to prop up the business in Aussie. Hows that for gratitude?

Poor old Shadow, doesn't know anythings about politics or the law, what does he know? The nurse will be along with you medication shortly Shadow Minister.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 17 February 2020 3:58:25 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

You write;

"So it would appear that the foul mouthed fireman was not fired nor was there any effort to have him fired and the whole episode was complete BS fabricated by the left whingers as a beat up on Morrison. Paul and SR were two of the suckers to swallow the story hook, line and stinker."

What?

I never mentioned a word about him being sacked nor did the original article I posted.

Have you just posted an assertion so you could knock it down? I think that is exactly what you have done.

Bit pathetic don't you think?

Dear mhaze,

What a petulant little post from you. You might well be getting a bit of a lather up trying to polish the turd which is Scomo's reputation at the moment by no need to inflict it on the rest of us.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 17 February 2020 4:18:23 PM
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SR

"You might well be getting a bit of a lather up trying to polish the turd which is Scomo's reputation ...."

So even after saying I had no particular truck with Morrison and didn't even vote for him last time out, SR decides I'm totally in Morrison's thrall. Facts seem quite alien to poor old SR, n'est pas?

But in SR-land there's no grey areas. Its either totally agree with SR's moronosity or total disagree. Its not possible to have no feelings one way or t'other or to just think its all a storm in a teacup. Which of course it is.

"Show me the quote and the context and I'll decide if I thought it was fair comment" asks mhaze.

Silence came the stern reply. Silence from SR = wrong and anxious to no longer talk about it.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 17 February 2020 4:54:17 PM
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Hey ttbn,
"The misuse of the word hero is indicative of our lowering standards and manipulation of language to suit the mood. And it's an insult to the very, very few real heroes who have ever lived."

Yeah alright, I'll concede on that point.
The word 'hero' does get thrown around a lot, sometimes attributed when it shouldn't be.
A lot of people labelled 'heros' will say they we're just doing what they were supposed to do in said situation.
That they didn't do anything extraordinary, just did 'what anyone would've done' if the were in that situation.
- Though these days many wouldn't do what they did.

You could play it down, and say Paul Parker was just the local drunk who wanted to save his pub from burning down.
How true that is, I don't know.

If he helped save the town though, then he is a hero, if only to the people who live there.
Some locals might not like the way he's brought attention to the town however.

I didn't help put out any of the fires, so I'm grateful for those who put themselves in harms way to do so.
It was obviously a big job.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 17 February 2020 5:05:47 PM
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AC,

I just call it the way I see it. I am not out to pursuade anyone.

It's now said that not only was this extremely unpleasant person not 'sacked', but the object of his abuse, Scott Morrison, didn't want any action taken against him. Let's see how much recognition of the PM's very generous attitude will come from the hate-filled Left.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 17 February 2020 5:32:57 PM
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seems like Steelie and Paul's bad mouth firey is a huge Pauline Hanson fan. Obviously to thick hides to see the irony of it. So so funny. You would think they would of learnt from their democrat mates.
Posted by runner, Monday, 17 February 2020 5:52:38 PM
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Imagine just for one minute how difficult it must be to run the country when almost 50% of it's citizens are like this git from Nelligen !
Posted by individual, Monday, 17 February 2020 5:55:02 PM
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Dear runner,

You write; "You would think they would of learnt from their democrat mates."

When are you going to get it through your thick skull we are not flag waving, starspangled devotees of your president.

You have decided you are more American than Australian which is fine but we really don't need you injecting your American politics into an Australian domestic political matter.

Dear mhaze,

You write; "after saying I had no particular truck with Morrison and didn't even vote for him last time out".

Mate after all the mess Scomo has made of things including presiding over rorts involving 100s of millions of taxpayer dollars yet you can't bring yourself to say a single bad word about the bloke instead you trot out the 'haters' rhetoric to deflect from him.

That takes a type of sycophantic loyalty which most of couldn't muster in a pink fit.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 17 February 2020 6:32:33 PM
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Steel and Paul your claims of misappropriation of funds for sports are a legitimate claim of the opposition, however at the time of the allocation all designated grants were legitimate according to the Auditor General. The problem was at the time the grant being deposited, some of the projects were already started. This then made them invalid.
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 17 February 2020 6:58:14 PM
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Josephus,

The Liberal Party was buying votes with taxpayers money in the lead up to the general election.

Why do you religious people keep trying to make excuses for them? Better still Soot 'Beam up me Scotty' Morrison and Bridget McKenzie should buy some indulgences off Hillsong and all of their sins will be washed away.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Monday, 17 February 2020 7:10:21 PM
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SteeleRedux, Could you please identify the rorts involving 100s of millions of taxpayer dollars. This group of sports grants did not involve 100,000,000s as you claim.

From the ABC.
"So far, Prime Minister Scott Morrison has pointed to the auditor's finding that all recipients were "eligible" and it was delivering "much-needed grants to local communities".
"The auditor-general found that there were no ineligible projects that were funded and that the rules were followed," he said earlier this week.
"The program of $100 million was spent on ensuring that young girls don't have to change in their parents' cars or out the back of the shed, they can have actual proper facilities in their communities.
"And I do know that these grants — all eligible, every single one of them was an eligible project, unlike what happened in the Ros Kelly affair and what happened under the previous government."
In 1994, Labor minister Ros Kelly resigned as part of the fallout relating to her own sports grants program.
Following an audit office report that was critical of the scheme, she famously gave evidence in a Parliamentary enquiry that decisions were based on a "great big whiteboard" in her office.
By emphasising that recipients under the current scheme were "eligible", Mr Morrison has sought to differentiate the current scheme from Ros Kelly's so-called "sports rorts" affair."
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 17 February 2020 7:10:39 PM
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Josephus, Morrison has been lying through his teeth, by claiming all the projects funded were eligible. The truth;

"When Tasmanian Liberal senator Eric Abetz took over the mic at this week's Senate inquiry into allegations of sports rorts, he asked the Australian National Audit Office (ANAO) to confirm the Prime Minister's well-worn statement — that all grants receiving funding were eligible."

Scott Morrison has repeatedly asserted the rebuttal in press conferences — at the National Press Club and in Parliament.

"I seek to clarify, you did find that no ineligible project or application was funded?" was the question Senator Abetz asked audit office executive Brian Boyd.

He did not get the answer he expected.

Instead, Mr Boyd revealed that 43 per cent of the projects that received funding in the $100 million program were in fact considered "INELIGIBLE".

No need to bang on about PAUL PARKER, a local hero. Nah, while the bushfires were blazing away and people like PAUL PARKER were risking their lives fighting to save other people and property, what was Liberal MP SAM DULUK up to. Good old SAM DULUK was getting pissed at a parliament house Christmas Party. Not satisfied with just being drunk while other Australians homes were burning down, DULUK was acting the jerk, slapping MLC Connie Bonaros on the behind and making inappropriate racist and homophobic comments to people at the party. Well, well, well, SAM DULUK makes PAUL PARKER look like a choir boy!

DULUK has been charged with assault.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 17 February 2020 8:49:07 PM
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Well I'm not prejudice, I'll criticise ANY politician when they do the wrong thing.
- Including the ones I support.

Josephus,
Do you understand that 'Winning doesn't count if you cheat'?

"So far, Prime Minister Scott Morrison has pointed to the auditor's finding that all recipients were "eligible" and it was delivering "much-needed grants to local communities".
"The auditor-general found that there were no ineligible projects that were funded and that the rules were followed," he said earlier this week.

Whilst these things above may be true,
(That's a 'move along nothing to see here' directive btw)
In my mind the government cheated to win.
Now were going to have these kinds of political payoffs, and sports grants designed to buy the votes of certain electorates, where other safe electorates won't receive anything.

The grants should go where they are needed full-stop.
Not where they are needed provided it wins electorates.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 17 February 2020 10:21:19 PM
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Dear Josephus,

You wrote;

“SteeleRedux, Could you please identify the rorts involving 100s of millions of taxpayer dollars. This group of sports grants did not involve 100,000,000s as you claim.”

Since you have politely asked I will answer;

“It was the multi-million-dollar sports program without any rules — except to win with a cash splash. No guidelines. No tender process. No application form. Some recipients didn't know they'd even been given money until they read about it in the local paper.

And at $150 million, it's worth more than the scandal-plagued community sports grants program that cost the ministerial career of former Nationals deputy leader Bridget McKenzie.”

“And rather than being a nationwide program aimed at encouraging women in sport — as Prime Minister Scott Morrison and then-sports minister Senator McKenzie claimed — the great majority of funding has been pledged towards swimming pools in just 11 Coalition-held seats.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-07/government-cash-splash-swimming-pools/11924850

So that is pretty well 250 million between just two rorts. That qualifies as 100s of millions of dollars in my book. Does it in yours?

Now pay attention mate, you might learn something.

Dear Paul,

Yes the look on Ebbetz face when the Brain Boyd from the National Audit Office told him 43% of the funded applications were ineligible was priceless.

http://youtu.be/3GzceEtJ1R0?t=114

This was also a good summation;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGm1B9E6UTw
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 17 February 2020 10:43:04 PM
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Paul,

Why do you have to be such an atrocious liar? You well know that I never claimed that an arrest was imminent and that you made that up.

Also unlike the ABC and SMH gutter press, the Australian never printed the factually incorrect story about the fireman.

Mr 0,

Once again your arts based critical thinking fails you as I am an atheist. Notably the left whinge is happy to strip Folau of his livelihood for quoting the bible but fiercely supports a fireman who screams abuse.

I do, however, believe in free speech, so while I don't agree with what Folau espouses I believe that he has the right to say what he believes in without being persecuted.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 4:20:59 AM
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Shadow Minister,

I find it very hard to believe that you are an atheist but I'll give you a chance to demonstrate it.

Define why it is that you do not believe in God.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 8:44:57 AM
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Let's just agree that some posters hate Scott Morrison and like aggressive, foul-mouthed thugs and yobbos (or anyone who shares their hatred of Morrison) and other posters are better bred and more circumspect.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 9:39:49 AM
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ttbn,

The biggest yobbo I have ever run across wears a bright Hawaii shirt and gives the thumbs up and says "How good is that!"

Now that's a yobbo!
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 10:06:06 AM
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Mr 0,

I have never before been asked to prove my non belief and find it somewhat absurd.

I suggest that before you make wild assumptions about someone you either ask them or look at their posting history.

PS. Are you glad that you openly supported the fireman now he has confirmed that he is a One Nation supporter.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 10:21:45 AM
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Pauls description of this firefighter

'decent, selfless, volunteer fire fighter'

Yep turns out to be a One nation Supporter. Ha Ha!

So Pauline's supporters are not all bigots, racist and sexist as you have seem to indicate for the last 10 years or have you been caught out yet again.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 11:10:32 AM
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I understand Shadow, as your silly prediction on 'Beat Up' Bolt

I would pin it on left whinge fascist clowns such as Getup or the greens. As one guy was stupid enough not to wear a mask, it is only a matter of time.

In the interim, the left whinge thug can enjoy the black eye, blue balls and humiliation.

Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 8 June 2017 4:12:47 PM

They already have their photographer who was filming the event and posted it, so it is ONLY A MATTER OF TIME before they get the other thugs, and with DNA hopefully give them a stint in prison.

Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 12 June 2017 8:18:24 PM

Unlike Morrison who is rather liberal with the wording of the truth, claiming all grants were eligible when the truth is 43% were not, I have to be precise with SHADOW MINISTER. A quick search throws up SM saying "so it is ONLY A MATTER OF TIME (for an arrest in the Beat Up Bolt BS)". It will be coming up 3 years shortly SM hardly a matter of time (imminent), YOU GOT THAT ONE WRONG! Why, because Bolt manufactured his own beat up for political purposes. SHADOW MINISTER plays semantics with my choice of words, then has the gall to call me a liar! SHADOW MINISTER is in the same class as Morrison!
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 11:16:51 AM
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As SR becomes increasingly unhinged on this, I'm struggling to understand the real cause behind his outrage.
Is it that:
- not everyone is clutching their pearls in the way he is?
- or is it that I pointed out that not everyone is clutching their pearls in the way he is?

I think the latter.

Of course its always possible that this type of pork barrelling just causes SR to loose his mind. Not a long journey after all.

In that case, we can all be assured that SR was equally as outraged when this same type of pork was being spread by the Keating government. I guess that's why SR voted for John Howard in 1996, due to his righteous (and not at all partisan?) outrage at these rorts
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 12:09:24 PM
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Paul,

Thanks for proving that you are a liar. You have shown absolutely that I never claimed that the arrest of the cowardly antifa thug was imminent.

adjective. "If you say that something is imminent, you mean it is almost certain to happen very soon."

PS, I am glad that you believe that a One Nation supporters is a decent selfless fellow.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 12:12:52 PM
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Shadow Minister,

Of course you find my question ridiculous because you are an ignorant man.

And you will not attempt it because you are a religious man.

This explains your recourse to non-human causes for global warming and climate change. You reject anything that defies an explanation that cannot have a recourse to divine providence.

You are definitely no atheist. But I'm sure you remember posting this:

"Mr 0,

I have answered your question eloquently more than once but clearly you are either too obtuse or stupid to grasp.

The answer to "why graduate engineers look down their noses at the 90% of engineers who do not have degrees." is simple and in small words is mostly they don't and certainly in my experience there are very few that do.

A question for you is why are arts graduates pedophiles?

Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 30 January 2020 3:47:13 AM"
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 1:35:58 PM
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And where did Parker tell his lie about being sacked- in the pub.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 1:41:44 PM
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mhaze,

The extreme Left is never going to let up. Like their Trumpophobic American cousins, they will never get over the fact that the socialists lost the unlosable election.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 1:50:58 PM
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Hi Mr O,

Shadow will be pleased with the latest news at COLES Where WAGES ARE DOWN! DOWN! DOWN! Shadow Minister has never been one for workers rights. He's always been anti union, anti worker, up there in his 27th floor office, Shadow has never been one for coming down to the coal face, just sticks his hand out for a cut when unions win better wages and conditions.

Now he's a COLES shopper where WAGES ARE DOWN! DOWN! DOWN!
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 9:44:32 PM
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a COLES shopper where WAGES ARE DOWN! DOWN! DOWN!
Paul1405,
Well, there's your opportunity to grab several packs of cornflakes & you might find some Uni Degree in them just as Mr Opinion did !
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 10:03:59 PM
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Mr 0,

You are simply a liar, a racist and a troll.

You haven't the IQ to analyse the world around you so you make broad sweeping assumptions about everyone else to fit into your prejudices.

I bet that you are chinese and disgusted with yourself.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 1:22:00 AM
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Come off it Indy, I used the Cornflakes packet one against Shadow the other day, you can't steal my line!

Are you still on board with my 'Seniors National Service' idea? I can just imagine you out there with the back packers cleaning up after the bushfires, earning your ration vouchers. Great idea.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 5:11:44 AM
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Since this seems to be one of those threads where you can throw up anything you like. I want to give a thumbs up to GEORGE CHRISTENSEN in particular, never thought I ever would, and ANDREW WILKIE. These two guys have taken it upon themselves to go to London, at their own expense, and see what they can do to free JULIAN ASSANGE from the clutches of the murderous Yanks! Its a pity ScumO' will not do something to protect an Australian citizen from blatant injustice.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 5:39:09 AM
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Shadow Minister,

You are very astute.

You managed to work out that I am Chinese? What gave me away?
Posted by Mr Opinion, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 6:34:11 AM
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Mr 0,

Simple, I applied the same logic that you used to conclude that I am religious.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 10:33:55 AM
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'Seniors National Service' idea
Paul1405,
You're actually way more insipid that I thought thus far !
On the other hand a "seniors NS" would be a good idea for the likes of you who have never pulled their weight even so as not to lose their grip on the Govt apron !
The rest of us have already paid way in advance.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 5:25:51 PM
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Shadow Minister,

Do you suffer from dyslexia?

I asked you "What gave me away?" and you replied "Simple, I applied the same logic that you used to conclude that I am religious."
Posted by Mr Opinion, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 7:01:01 PM
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Hey Shadow Minister,
Love your work, maybe this will teach Mr Opinion about making assumptions.

Hey Paul1405,
"I want to give a thumbs up to GEORGE CHRISTENSEN in particular, never thought I ever would, and ANDREW WILKIE. These two guys have taken it upon themselves to go to London, at their own expense, and see what they can do to free JULIAN ASSANGE from the clutches of the murderous Yanks!"

That's great news, though I'm not sure what they'll be able to achieve.
It's a little bit late, but they've got heaps to gain from bringing him home.
I didn't think anyone was going to stand up and help the bloke.
I honestly thought the whole country had left him for dead.

Sad part about it all is nothing wikileaks released was ever proven to be false, and no one in the US government was ever held accountable for the crimes he exposed.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 7:34:51 PM
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Armchair Critic,

When you say "Hey Shadow Minister, Love your work, maybe this will teach Mr Opinion about making assumptions." are you referring to his comments like this one:

"Mr 0,

I have answered your question eloquently more than once but clearly you are either too obtuse or stupid to grasp.

The answer to "why graduate engineers look down their noses at the 90% of engineers who do not have degrees." is simple and in small words is mostly they don't and certainly in my experience there are very few that do.

A question for you is why are arts graduates pedophiles?

Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 30 January 2020 3:47:13 AM"
Posted by Mr Opinion, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 8:09:57 PM
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Oh, does Polly want a cracker?

It's fairly obvious what I meant.
But just to make it crystal clear, I'm talking about you making assumptions and falsely accusing everyone here of being religious.

My count is that you've accused 9 people now that I know of.
I've listed them all on the 'Flogging a Dead Horse, its Name be Coal' thread.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 10:53:55 PM
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Mr 0,

As to my previous post to which you refer:

"The answer to "why graduate engineers look down their noses at the 90% of engineers who do not have degrees." is simple and in small words is mostly they don't and certainly in my experience there are very few that do.

A question for you is why are arts graduates pedophiles?"

You still haven't answered the question....
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 20 February 2020 3:16:06 AM
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Armchair Critic,

What you say is always fairly obvious to people with your level of education.

If I misunderstand you it is simply because we do not have the same level of education.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Thursday, 20 February 2020 4:59:24 AM
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Shadow Minister,

I suppose your dyslexia is not a hindrance to holding a job as an engineer where one does not need to have good English.

I always thought you were just avoiding answering my questions but now I realise it is because of your handicap.

Which also makes sense of why you are jealous of Arts graduates who do need to have excellent English.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Thursday, 20 February 2020 5:06:41 AM
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Mr 0,

If your posts are representative of Arts Grads, I have nothing to be jealous of.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 20 February 2020 5:33:55 AM
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Shadow Minister,

There you go with the lies again!
Posted by Mr Opinion, Thursday, 20 February 2020 6:13:24 AM
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Mr 0,

The lies are all yours.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 20 February 2020 6:51:27 AM
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Shadow, do not engage the ignorant Mr O in trivial nonsense in which he delights. Keep to the facts of the topic.

It is fortunate we do not have to believe a bunch of drunks to establish our ideas. The local pub usually has one loud mouth and a bunch that dare not challenge his opinion without being outed. I'm involved with a group of about 80 men in a Men's Shed currently and their are 80 opinions held among them.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 20 February 2020 7:22:42 AM
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I think most people here are playing political sides and have missed the point, content and intent of Paul Parker's comments.

He told the Channel 7 crew to let the PM know that he can "F" himself after the PM made the comment on the breakfast show that the volunteers do not deserve to be paid for their time and efforts fighting fires because they are doing what they love :- fighting fires.

Get a perspective people.
Posted by J.B., Sunday, 23 February 2020 3:37:37 PM
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JB, be careful that you quote the PM correctly. Did he use the term, "do not deserve": that has emotive political overtones. He may have said that because they are State Volunteers, they as volunteers are not paid staff as the regular firemen. I believe volunteers were offered assistance by the Federal Government if they had to leave their employment for more than ten days. claim form> http://www.service.nsw.gov.au/transaction/apply-volunteer-firefighter-payment?gclid=Cj0KCQiA4sjyBRC5ARIsAEHsELGNcp7uWvgSFg66S8H16Gkn4eSQNQQulgSL6A0HLRVxjVjBGFmNpUYaAijbEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 23 February 2020 7:03:52 PM
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This is the ABC report on the announcement $300 p/p each day. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-29/scott-morrison-announces-volunteer-firefighter-compensation/11830758
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 23 February 2020 7:08:07 PM
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Josephus, reference Dec 10, Dec 6, Dec4, Dec3, all through November, and beginning from September 24th Morrison's position was he would not pay the volunteer firefighters - EVEN THOSE FIGHTING FIRES FROM the beginning of September or earlier.

The article in question where Paul Parker asked the channel 7 crew to pass the message on to ScoMo to "F" himself, occurred after a December 10th appearance on Channel 7 where the "PM" (and I use the term loosely) said -

"Prime Minister Scott Morrison has rejected paying volunteer firefighters battling an unprecedented number of bushfires up and down the eastern seaboard, claiming that they "want to be out there".

The prime minister was speaking at a press conference to spruik his revamped religious freedom legislation.

As he addressed reporters on Tuesday afternoon, about 2700 firefighters were tackling 85 fires, 42 of which were uncontrolled. And that was just NSW."

Interviewed on the the breakfast show he said and I quote- "We are constantly looking at ways we can better facilitate the volunteer effort but to professionalise that, at that scale, is not a matter that has previously been accepted and is not a matter that's currently under consideration by the government," he said.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The payment to volunteers which you suggest was agreed to on Dec 29 after immense pressure from the opposition and public. In short Scomo was trying to save face. A day late and a dollar short on this one, he deserves all the crapolla the public sees fit to heap on him. Disgusting that he expected volunteers to put their lives on the line without remuneration for weeks at a time while he was enjoying cocktails in Hawaii.

https://7news.com.au/politics/scott-morrison/scott-morrison-rejects-paying-volunteer-firefighters-battling-unprecedented-blaze-says-they-want-to-be-out-there--c-598843

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/10/scott-morrison-rejects-calls-for-more-help-saying-volunteer-firefighters-want-to-be-there

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7892465/Few-volunteer-firefighters-claim-Scott-Morrisons-6-000-payments.html
Posted by J.B., Monday, 24 February 2020 12:32:52 PM
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