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The Forum > General Discussion > It ain't gonna rain no more!

It ain't gonna rain no more!

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mhaze,

When are you going to fix the weather? This is all your fault you know!
Posted by Mr Opinion, Friday, 14 February 2020 3:58:18 PM
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First, climate is 30 year averages.

Weather is what happens next month.

Climate can predict STATISTICAL changes, but weather ATTEMPTS to predict which roll of dice those changes happen on. (Which month.)

So pointing at an incorrect WEATHER prediction and sneering just shows how utterly incompetent the SNEERER is, and is to be ignored as it likely the sneer of the raving lunatic.

However, the BOM actually said: 12 Dec 2019

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The rainfall outlook for January to March suggests only small areas of the southeast and northeast are likely to be drier than average, with some small scattered areas of the northwest likely to be wetter than average. However, much of Australia has roughly equal chances of being wetter or drier than average for January to March.

While outlooks for drier than average conditions may ease heading into 2020, several months of above average rainfall would be needed to see a recovery from current long-term rainfall deficiencies.
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/ahead/outlooks/archive/20191212-outlook.shtml
Posted by Max Green, Friday, 14 February 2020 3:59:23 PM
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Dear mhaze,

Oh dear. Really?

You keep wilfully conflating “not rain” with “no significant rain”. They are not the same thing. Hasbeen wanted to gild the lily and you defended him.

You claim “The Hassie quote was correct. It was from the article.”. Wrong. It was from some clickbait title which for the Daily Mirror is par fro the course.

The article was published on the 10th of December 2019. Here is the longer term outlook from the BOM published on the 11th of December.

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While the remainder of December is likely to be drier than average for the NT, Queensland, eastern SA, NSW, Victoria, Tasmania and southwest WA, the rainfall outlook for January 2020 suggests the area of drier conditions will contract to small parts of the east, including Tasmania.
The outlook for the fortnight covering the Christmas–New Year period (23 December to 5 January) suggests drier than normal conditions for much of the eastern two thirds of the continent. 

The rainfall outlook for January to March suggests only small areas of the southeast and northeast are likely to be drier than average, with some small scattered areas of the northwest likely to be wetter than average. However, much of Australia has roughly equal chances of being wetter or drier than average for January to March.

While outlooks for drier than average conditions may ease heading into 2020, several months of above average rainfall would be needed to see a recovery from current long-term rainfall deficiencies.

End quote

Pretty well spot on.

How does that equate with the click bait title from the Daily Telegraph?

See what a difference is when you are prepared to quote directly from the source without the need to sell newspapers.

Grow up mate.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 14 February 2020 4:01:36 PM
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Yes SR,

I'm very aware of the BOM's penchant for making every prediction and then sitting back to see which one turns out to be true, then claiming that was indeed their actual prediction.

The fact remains that they went in a conference with government officials and ministers and fed them the same scary scenarios they force-feed the alarmists on a regular basis. And those predictions were wrong. Utterly and laughably wrong.

If you did any checking you see that it wasn't just the the DailyMail (you said Telegraph but I'm used to you getting it wrong) but any number of news sources. But now you're claiming it was all wrong and it wasn't what the BOM rooly trooly believed. So show me where they set the records and the various governments straight.

For anyone who has followed this whole saga for any time, this is pretty standard. Issue super-scary stories about how dire things are so as to achieve the propaganda aims, and then, when the stories fail to eventuate, pretend to have never made such predictions....oh and hope fellow cultists will forget in a big hurry the error.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 14 February 2020 4:53:53 PM
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Dear mhaze,

Whatever.

Dear Max Green,

Beat me by two minutes. Amazing how far these guys will run with something which is so easily checked.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 14 February 2020 5:18:00 PM
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rational adults just shake our heads and wince
Max Green,

So, what do you rational thinkers propose to stop the present trend in all things Climate ?
Deny three billion people the comforts & frivolities of life that you thinkers enjoy ?
Please tell us !
Posted by individual, Friday, 14 February 2020 5:18:34 PM
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