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The 'moment of crisis' Sir David Attenborough

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Hi Hasbeen,

I was watching the wonderful "Vera" last night and noticed these young kids surfing - off the coast of Newcastle in NE England, maybe around Whitley Bay. I thought how wonderful it was that the water there hasn't been heated up yet to make it unpleasant to surf here. Maybe surfies should migrate from here to there, once they discover the secret :)

The historian Fernand Braudel remarked casually in his magisterial trilogy that when Europeans discovered tobacco, farmers in England quickly started to plant and harvest it. Can tobacco be grown in England since then ?

The Venerable Bede (a.k.a. the Venereal Bard) wrote (around 850 AD) of wine being produced at monasteries, i.e. grapes being grown, in England's north - and even in Scotland's south. Thank goodness it isn't so hot now that that can be done.

Archaeologists digging up a Middle-Ages cemetery in Greenland had to stop because the ground was still deep in permafrost, a foot or so down.

Perhaps it's only legend but the Vikings were supposed to have grown crops and grapes in eastern Canada. Can grapes grow in eastern Canada these days ? God, I hope not, how could Trudeau cope ?

Grapes used to be grown in Germany's Black Forest at elevations of 780 m, but the highest these days is around Boden at 560 m (Lamb, 1959). On that rough basis, it used to be two degrees C hotter in the Middle Ages.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Sunday, 19 January 2020 12:34:47 PM
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Joe, gave you a fair chance to come up with the evidence that it was MY MATES who were responsible for the bushfires, as you claimed, or are you just another one of the many deniers who MAKE UP LIES!

The whole denial thing with climate change is becoming a sick joke, so we lampoon you, the vast majority of Australian's are now demanding real action on climate change.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 19 January 2020 2:46:53 PM
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the vast majority of Australian's are now demanding real action on climate change.
Paul1405,
And, that action is ? What ?
Posted by individual, Sunday, 19 January 2020 3:05:05 PM
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Paul1405,

There is hope.

Our great champion of turning back the clock on climate change - you guessed it, it's Soot - will now have to put pressure on the big greenhouse gas emitters to reduce their emissions in order to save his political career.

He could do something like threaten to deport all the Chinese colonists from Sydney and Melbourne or refuse to sell coal to China or turn down his invitation from Xi Jinping to attend a State dinner in his honour at the Forbidden City.

There are lots of things Soot can do. Just got to get his mind off taking a holiday to the Caribbean at the first sign of the next bushfire catastrophe.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 19 January 2020 3:09:09 PM
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Individual,

I think Paul might mean the reduction of fuel loads in national parks and the drastic overhaul of environmental laws and policies. If so, although I'm not sure about the 'vast' majority, but I'm with him.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Sunday, 19 January 2020 4:26:56 PM
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"NASA reveals 2019 is the second warmest year after 2016 since records begun in 1880."

These declarations are made regularly but are more propaganda than science - so of coarse the alarmists will lap it up.

These claims never take into account the margins of error (MoE). Back in 2014 when they made the same claim about that year they were finally forced to admit that they were only 38% sure that it was accurate due to the MoE. Even using their highly dubious MoE of 0.1c, they cannot say with any certainty that 2019 was the second highest.

Still, those who claim to follow the science but actually follow the propaganda will fall for it all over again.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 19 January 2020 6:21:13 PM
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