Mr 0,

That you have to go back a century largely proves my point.

Secondly, your inane comment that I fix H's internet is why those of your ilk are regarded with such contempt.

While with the correct diagnostic equipment and parts I could almost certainly "fix the problem", the costs of my time, my travel and the hire and purchase of equipment and components would cost orders of magnitude more than the 1 hr visit by the supplier's technician with his equipped van.

A friend of my daughter has a BA and has a job at a local radio station as a producer, and is welcome at our house because he is an educated and engaging young man and not a pompous know it all.

Shadow Minister,

I'm sure it's very obvious to your daughter's friend that you do not know anything about Arts things like sociology, history, archaeology, anthropology, philosophy, etc., which is probably the reason he refrains from mentioning these things in your presence.

He's doing exactly what I would do by not engaging with you in a discussion on Arts things because it would be a total waste of time.

Just put your overalls on, pick up your toolbox, and start making yourself useful by putting your vocational training into fixing things.

Mr O, SR is only echoíng what millions of others have been saying for years.
"You get an arts degree, because you can't hack it trying to get a 'real' degree".
YOU and other arts degree grads might think an arts degree is something, well considering that to get ANY other type of degree from engineering to, well even an apprenticeship, takes 4 - 5 years.
An arts degree from memory can take as little as three.
And anyway, don't kid yourself, what is known as a profession, even plumbing, has a REAL demand in life.
You guys and your intangible and incalculable course and eventual accomplishment, having achieved an arts degree, have in fact achieved a qualification based on nothing, and so it is that an arts degree has always been considered "good for nothing".
Only those with such a degree speak so highly about having one and what it is supposed to encompass.
All the subjects you mention have little or no substance or use in the 'real' world.
They are subjects that are exactly that, subjective.
They hold sway to no actual and measurable goals or achievements.
They consist of personal opinions and extremely impossible means of measuring success and conclusions.
ie; it's a theoretical degree.

Mr O, while I think of it, the greater majority would welcome or need SM and his toolbox, where-as nobody wants or needs someone with an arts degree.
No sorry, that's not quite true.
Only someone who also has an arts degree will entertain another with an arts degree, but the sum total of their getting together would be for naught, because after their meeting, nothing of any value or worth was conceived or forthcoming.
Just hot air, with no practical outcome.
NONE!
Where-as when SR picks up his tool box to leave, he has achieved something by having restored someones NBN.
Now that is of use to the people, not some dreamy air head sitting around drinking skinny latte's all day discussing a lot of irrelevant rubbish, that only they could discuss because anything more would be too hard and they would actually have to study/think and learn stuff, which is beyond their mental and scholastic capacity, ability and aptitude.
So a BA sounds better and easier than an apprenticeship.
Yeah, that's just what the world needs, more lackademics.

Mr 0,

You arrogance is only outstripped by you ignorance.

Just about every degree is aligned to a vocation such as engineering, law, business, medicine, architecture, archaeology, painting, sculpture, etc. It is intelligence, persistence and flair that separates the street artist from the Picasso, the back room engineer from the Elon Musk etc. That you are stuck writing pointless reports that no one will read shows that while you have the pieces of paper, you have none of the qualities to expand on them.

Secondly, the assumption that I am ignorant of all things artistic is yet another moronic assumption on your part and I have no doubt that in several areas of art and history I know far more than you.

Dear Shadow Minister,

You write;

"A friend of my daughter has a BA and has a job at a local radio station as a producer, and is welcome at our house because he is an educated and engaging young man and not a pompous know it all."

Just wondering if he realises having two pompous know it alls in the same house would be too much?