individual and Loudmouth,

You are both talking through your hat about ground water on the Pacific atolls.

The mechanics of groundwater depletion on atolls and small islands in the Pacific has been known for the past three decades. And neither of you has a clue what it is about.

And I'm not an environmental scientist as Loudmouth seems to think. I'm an environmental sociologist, which is scholarly pursuit not a scientific endeavour. Something neither of you also knows anything about. Especially Loudmouth with his imaginary self-awarded degrees and BAs he has but doesn't really have.

Here are the chemistry facts of air heating oceans. Experiment fill a bath with cold water say 18C and find how many 1,000 watt heaters in the room it takes to warm the water in the bath by 1.0C.

http://principia-scientific.org/chemistry-expert-carbon-dioxide-cant-cause-global-warming/?fbclid=IwAR0im4ssW3r5QbgAb9pboaQmebzu414KaKSapxjjZpquCYPJTHsQ8-SrTiw

Josephus, really?
Again?
Mate how do you do it?
You've got one hell of a magical source of info.
Again, I know I sound like a broken record, but going back to some very early postings will find me once again vindicated.
You see what I love about your links and proofs, is that they are clear and easy to understand, so that even people like SR, Paul and Mr O might start to get the hint.
What annoys me is their continual virtue shaming, without ANY real truths, just the same old drivel from the same old liars and ignorant criminals.
As for Mr Morrison, the PM, he had/has NOTHING to do with the fires, or CC and so on and so forth.
The reason why this whole fiasco is garbage, is because it's not the fact that the earth MIGHT be warming, but the fact that we are accused of being responsible.
Absolutely not true.
If these easily led fools actually did some research of their own and asked the hard questions, they would have found out years ago that this current climate situation has been going on forever, and right now we are about half way through a heating cycle, for at least another approx, 300 years, when we will peak and start reverting back to a cooling cycle or mini ice age again. And so it has been forever.
The con-men have picked up on this so that they can use it to their selfish, greedy ends.
And the idiots fell for it!

ALTRAV,

You are absolutely right.

When the bushfires started, Soot did absolutely NOTHING except pack his bags and shoot off to Hawaii.

But now he has a chance to redeem himself by putting pressure on the big emitters of greenhouse gases to reduce their emissions in order to prevent Australia being the constant victim of global warming. His political career now depends on it.

Or do you think doing something like that has NOTHING to do with him? If you think that then I suggest you pack YOUR bags and bugger off to Hawaii as well.

In light of ATRAV's ongoing display of ignorance about how the world works I think we should all take a moment out from arguing with each other to reflect on one of the great moments in history when Soot 'Beam up me Scotty' Morrison got the Australian parliament all 'fired' up about coal:

http://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2017/feb/09/scott-morrison-brings-a-chunk-of-coal-into-parliament-video

And this is the man who has turned a leaf and is now going to make a career out of being a climate change warrior who will save Australia from being a constant victim of the global warming being caused by the big greenhouse gas emitters. (PS I don't think I would like to be in his boots come the next federal election.)

Hi Joe, I was rather disappointed with you after you made that erroneous claim that it was MY MATES who were responsible for the bushfires. Where as a lesser man would slink away and say nothing, a bigger man would step forward and admit to the error of his ways, are you a lesser man Joe? However being a body overflowing with the milk of human kindness I forgive thee for the error of thy ways, but not before awarding you a PORKY AWARD second class for your unmitigated untruthfulness!

Ah, we have cleared the air!

Great news Joe, you will be please to hear that the bushfires have not been a complete disaster. In Victoria the bushfires have exposed extra sections of the ancient aquaculture system built by indigenous farmers thousands of years ago at Budj Bim, a complex ell harvesting system. Do you not find that amazing Joe, of course this was never covered by those lying white honky Aboriginal Controllers of the past was it Joe?