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Global warming garbage.

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Just to remind the warmist useful idiots, here is a reminder from 2004 of the rubbish they are supporting.

Hat tip to No Tricks Zone.

Der Spiegel reported on the study, which George W. Bush presented, on February 22, 2004:

The scenario is as threatening as it is realistic: the Gulf Stream, which like a gigantic hot water heating system that pumps billions of liters of tropical water to the north, loses power, changes direction and suddenly collapses completely. Icy winds roar across northern Europe, devastating storms and floods devastate the coasts. The forests die off, the plains around the North and Baltic Seas freeze into tundra. The dramatic climate changes are putting people and governments in dire straits. Oil is running out, peacekeeping alliances erode. Bloody conflicts break out, wars for raw materials and food devastate the continents. Within a few years, the world is brought to the brink of total anarchy.”

On the same day as Der Spiegel, February 22, 2004, the British Guardian added:

Climate change could lead to a global catastrophe in the next 20 years, costing millions of lives in wars and natural disasters.”

A secret report suppressed by US defense chiefs and obtained by The Observer warns that major European cities will sink below rising sea levels if Britain is plunged into a ‘Siberian’ climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread violence will erupt worldwide.”

Yes this is the same garbage now presented as climate emergency, & equally as rabid garbage as 16 years ago.

What on earth will it take for these people to see what fools they are being taken for.

The last big question, will it now happen over night?
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 3:43:36 PM
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Hasbeen

I challenge you to define the probable causes of global warming over the past 240 years. Please identify each probable cause and then explain the reason each has resulted in a mean global temperature rise over the past 240 years. Let me start the ball rolling:

1. Burning of fossil fuels that started with the industrial revolution. Results in greenhouse gas emissions that collect in the atmosphere particularly CO2 triggering water vapour and in turn trapping heat from escaping into the cosmos. The resultant positive captured heat causing the planet to get warmer.

Your turn. Feel free to list and explain as many as you want. But please keep each to a few of lines like I have done.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 4:40:38 PM
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The challenge made to Hasbeen is open to others (because I think Hasbeen took one look, threw his arms up in alarm, and decided to go to bed.)

So please feel free to define and explain what are probable causes of global warming over the past 240 years.

Please keep it to a few lines and in your own words. Please don't do the high school kid thingy of referring the reader to some obscure website with a 'You can read it yourself' explanation. That is just so dumb!
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 5:47:31 PM
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Mr O first you owe me an explanation of all those ridiculously wrong forecasts above by your warmest gods. Until you explain this total rubbish I shouldn't bother, but there may be some reading this who want the truth.

Yes the climate is warming, bouncing back from the Maunder minimum, otherwise known as the little ice age. Hopefully it will continue until it reaches the higher temperatures of the medieval warm period, & the Roman warm periods, both warmer than today, & much kinder to the human population.

This is looking less likely with the lack of sun spots, which forecast a cooler period. Already Siberian & North American winters are colder, with snow remaining later & frosts starting earlier.

The US Corn Belt is moving south. It has to, as it is no longer viable in the northern part of its traditional range.

I suggest you do a little reading on sites not exclusively
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 6:32:23 PM
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Hasbeen,
WHO estimate climate change is killing what, 300,000 people per year already? As in, right now? 3 million per decade enough for you?

Oh, and funky stuff IS happening with AMOC / Gulf Stream, but not as dramatic as some b-grade Sci-Fi.

https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/gulf-stream-ice-age-collapse-climate-change-amoc-global-warming-a8301511.html
Posted by Max Green, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 6:52:37 PM
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"WHO estimate climate change is killing what, 300,000 people per year already? As in, right now? 3 million per decade enough for you?"

So you've seen the reports of 3 million autopsy's undertaken last year where the cause of death was ruled as 'climate change'?

- Come on, really?

"I challenge you to define the probable causes of global warming over the past 240 years."

The modern thermometer was invented in 1714.
You'd need a sample rate of the last 1000 years of data at least to even remotely try to accurately look at the bigger picture of the last 240.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 7:43:12 PM
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