Hi Belly, how about a law that only allows baptism/christening etc for those who can make a conscience decision to "join the faith" as an adult. Then the 2% of Christians in society would be well satisfied. The adult rate of christening, or conversion, is very low. My grandmother who was staunch to begin with, converted from Anglican to marry a Catholic as an adult, can't recall too many in the family doing that.

Paul1405,
You got my vote on that ! Great idea but I'm afraid it'll drown in the Gene pool !

To have a functioning society of ideas and associations there must be boundaries and laws to surround those values for justice in relationships. People are by nature competitive and cruel, especially verbally cruel. We need a sense of justice based in care for the other. We see the intent of cruelty and abuse expressed especially in social media.

The development of societies that upheld the ten commandments were the most advanced, free and presented ideas and products to improve the well being of all society. Societies have moved away from intrinsic values to tribal values and law and order has broken down.

It would be interesting to see the value system posters on Online adhere too. Jesus put it in two phrases, I rephrase; worship and love of the highest values, and care and respect of others, even an enemy.

My rendition of the Judaeo-Christian values.

1. Admire there is behaviour higher and more just; greater than present human attitudes.
2. Uphold there is only one value system to follow.
3. We should not devalue those values.
4. We should not be, or hold slaves but have relaxed meditation time.
5. Respect the elderly and care for one's parents.
6. Do not plan intend or carry out murder [the taking of another's life].
7. Do not plan, intend or carry out sex with another's partner.
8. Do not speak falsely, or intentionally hurtful of another.
9. Do not defraud, or steal rights or property from another.
10. Do not covet with intent to rob another's possessions or employees.[reduce his wealth or income]

Some pretty revealing posts, particularly from Steele. He appears to think that we should have laws stopping people from being rude to other people (although I suspect he thinks it is only some "other people" and you can be as rude as you like to people he disagrees with).

And that after being told Gay Marriage wouldn't affect our rights of freedom of belief and freedom of religion, apparently now it does. On this basis no one should trust anything the intolerance lobby says. It's all for their benefit, not anyone else's.

The fascists are out in strength. And that is not an insult it is a statement about the authoritarian point of view they support. And some of these people are Double Speak Jedi Mind Masters. You need to watch them closely and be careful not to be taken in by slogans like "Love is love" because what they really mean is either "Love is hate" or "Self love is the greatest love of all".

Paul, you are confusing.
You bag the religious but you praise the queers.
You rubbish those who, at least, have the courage to admit they believe in something on the good side of the spectrum.
Meaning religion is a discipline, which even if you don't go to church, you are a good person with good morals and beliefs.
It is up to each christian to adhere or not to the teachings of Christianity.
A few sick priests doth not maketh the norm, or mean every priest is sick.
On the other hand you promote, even admire, (it seems) queers.
Paul you can't be trusted to make any serious comments or contribution if you can't see the huge inconsistency and fallacy in your argument.
Which is better a bad christian or a good queer?
When comparing morals and ethics, and a million other societal factors, which is the one following a more acceptable and ideological path and lifestyle?
No Paul, YOU may have your reasons for choosing queers over the religious, and that's OK, it is your right, but it is also incumbent upon me or any good christian to point out the error of your ways.
Don't forget, it is freedom of speech that allows us to speak free and frank without fear or favour as we are doing.
Yes my, and others comments, will offend and upset, does this mean I should be compliant and only add comments that strengthen the other persons view of the discussion, even though they are proven to, or known to be wrong?

Dear GrahamY,

Smoke and mirrors old chap, but nothing addressing the issue raised by the video.

Is a disability carer allowed to tell a disabled person that their disability is from the devil and claim freedom from censure by his or her employer because it is a firmly held religious belief?

Can the person at the local motor registration branch continually berate single mums for having had children out of wedlock and not ever be allowed to be pulled up for it?

Will a religious school which is nearly fully funded by taxpayers be able to ban all those who do not full profess the applicable faith from attending as students or from teaching. Will they be able to expel students for turning away from the faith during year 12 studies in the name of religious freedom?

This is the kind of f$$$ed up society you might want for this country but I most certainly do not. I consider it an affront to all decent Australians.

How on earth is that making me a fascist and not you?