"I believe there is a legitimate moral right to offend people whose behaviour you disapprove. You do it to your children in their training, they get offended but it corrects their behaviour."

Hey Josephus,
What happens when the parents are in the wrong in their training?
That then makes the childs behavior correct in dysfunction.

Kids learn 2 social behaiviors growing up.
1. Respect your Parents (Unconditional respect)
2. Tit for Tat (Mutual Respect)

Respect is a two way street.
If parents ignore or disrespect their kids their childs needs, eventually that overriding 'Respect your Parents' contract will by voided, and the child will give way to their second learned or default social behaviour 'Tit for tat'; which is the social behavior they learn when dealing with their peers.

Their attitude with their parents will worsen as they get older and learn about respecting others;
- Because part of that learning about 'respecting others' is that they should also expect to be treated respectfully in return.

If they don't feel they are treated fairly their behaviour will give way to 'Tit for Tat'

"If you don't listen to me, I won't listen to you."
"If you don't 'respect' me, then I won't 'respect' you.
Apart from a stubburn attitude and bad behavior, you can also expect aloofness.
These are natural reaction to situations that are completely beyond the child's control and left unaddressed will lead to more serious dyfunction as the child gets older.

You need to think about it from a child's perspective.

The Child's Job

IT IS the child's job to learn to be respectful of others, and expect to be treated the same way by others.
When parents treat kids unfairly they risk breaking the 'Respect your parents' contract and forcing kids into 'Tit for Tat' behavior and dysfunction.
This bad behavior and dysfunction left unresolved can spiral out control into adolescence and adulthood.

IT IS the childs job to express themselves the best they can INCLUDING when they feel they are being treated unfairly;
Under 'Tit for Tat' the social behaviour they learn with when dealing with peers, IT IS their job to learn to defend themselves when others treat them unfairly.
Parent's even reinforce this themselves by saying 'You need to learn to stand up for yourself'
But IT IS NOT a child's job to be able to fully articulate exactly whats going wrong in the adults world.

The Adults Job

If IT IS the adults job to ensure the physical and emotional wellbeing of the child, then by default it's also their job to subtly dig, probe and question the child in whatever way is necessary in order to figure out 'the bigger picture', in other words, find out what's wrong so the issue can be addressed and resolved.
If the cause of the issue is left unaddressed or unresolved then it should only be expected that the dysfunctional behaviour will continue.

In a bigger picture the parent must try to understand the bad behaivior is effectively the child expressing themselves the best they can in an adult world that they have little or no control of.

These situations can't be ignored without an ongoing negative or detrimental effect whilst left unresolved.
The parent MUST move to find out what's wrong and address the cause, to ensure the child's emotional well-being.
This IS NOT negotiable.

Moral to the Story;

If a kid isn't being treated fairly and parents themselves break the 'Respect your Parents' contract;

Then IT IS the KIDS JOB to act out and be dysfunctional.

Dear GrahamY,

Look mate, I get how cut up the conservatives are about gay marriage but is this really the way to respond, with a crappy piece of un-Australian legislation.

The religious lot in this country have basically won. Government funded chaplains in all our schools, about a third of our kids now in government funded private religious schools and a happy clappy PM who talks in tongues, yet here you all are bleating about how persecuted you are. What rubbish.

You haven't challenged a single part of the video have you. If what it asserts is true then the bill is disgraceful. This is going to further drive division in the community. If some religious fruit cake behind the counter at Vicroads wants to make snide remarks about a single mum, or a woman in a head dress, or an obviously trans person her right to do so should not be protected.

If a religious school or hospital wants to fund themselves then I have no objection to them conducting religious discrimination. I may well think it stinks to high heaven in a country like ours but I will wear it. However if they are taking my tax dollars while doing it then they can get stuffed.

I take a more natural line.
And that is; If I want to say something, I will say it.
If I intended to insult or upset the person I am talking to/about, then I have succeeded in my goal.
If I did not set out to insult or upset the person, then I would expect a challenge or rebuttal from that person.
To which I would clarify and all ends well.
I find it an egregious invasion of my right to speak freely or "freedom of speech".
It is severe censorship when one is stopped from speaking their mind.
There is also one very large and very serious point that is not mentioned in all this, and that is; If one is not allowed to speak their mind, honestly and freely without any external forces or laws stopping them, the message and in fact the conversation and it's intended message will not be true and in fact it will render the conversation irrelevant.
This is the reason why Political Correctness is a very bad and corrosive language.
If you say something which discriminates, big deal, there are a lot of things I can say, but OLO is still undecided as to what is acceptable and what is not, so I will simply choose to say that if you are so sensitive to criticism, GROW UP, GROW SOME other things and stop being such a woos, or neuter, or whatever else, and learn to stand up for yourself, and not hide behind PC.

SR, your argument is as solid as tissue paper.
You do not get to choose who does what with taxpayers money, the govt does.
I could give you a boat load of things the govt is throwing/wasting money at.
As for challenging the video, sure why not, it's another pathetic attempt at validation, which will NEVER happen, no matter what they say to try to force us to believe the opposite.
Why can't people like you just accept the fact that people like me exist, and we don't like certain people.
We have the right to say it, and yes even in a public place or forum, you have the right to disagree, but not the right to stop me from saying what I feel I have to or need to say.
It really is about time you and those of your mindset, just accept that we discriminate all the time, sometimes intentionally, sometimes not.
It is not acceptable for a few to dictate to the many.
So do not attempt to justify an injustice like PC.
Discrimination is not an injustice but a natural part of life and human interactions

Remember in defense of freedom of speech we who do not believe must have the right to our views being protected too.
Again I would not want the job of writing this bill.
Yesterday we heard 52 percent of us are Christians [may be true may not be].
We have been told 30 percent in the census, says they have no religion.
Consider the remaining 18 percent the many faiths, and remember they too must be protected.