Dear individual,

Hold on one minute mate, your far right viewpoint may well colour your perspective when judging someone's political leaning but I will tell you I'm hardly on the left to a lot of people I engage with. Most would definitely consider me centrist.

This forum is pretty well hard right for the most part. Supporting action on things like climate change and same sex marriage are majority positions in this country not fringe. Climate change denial is most certainly fringe. You are most certainly fringe too.

your far right viewpoint may well colour your perspective
SteeleRedux,
I guarantee you that that is not the case at all, what colours my viewpoint is my experience from my perspective !
You only call it far right because your idealism dictates so. Pragmatism is Right, Idealism is Left ! Or, to put it another way, those on the Right are generally in the revenue producing sector whereas those on the Left are in the revenue using sector. Not even a hard-core Leftist would deny that !

Dear individual,

Having run my own businesses most of my working life I have certainly been involved with many others doing the same. I can not think of one of them who would deny climate change not vote against SSM.

As most of the highest paid jobs usually involve having a university degree, and they are predominately left leaning, this also cruels your statement.

The fact that the Gina Reinharts of this world are hard right is not surprising as they are direct beneficiaries of hyper-capitalism. That in no way reflects the majority.

One of the reasons I still haunt this forum is I get to cross swords with people like you with whom I don't engage with normally. Again mate, you definitely are fringe.

SR, a quick correction.
You say MOST people in this country, or "majority positions".
I gather you mean, a MAJORITY of the people.
That is not quite right.
Because the survey had a predetermined agenda and not ALL the people voted, we ended up with a non-survey, which indicated that only the majority of those who got off their arses voted,YES.
In truth it was a NO result, so please do not mis-quote as it is mis-leading and because of this people make the wrong decisions based on wrong information.

individual,

"One of the reasons I still haunt this forum is I get to cross swords with people like you ..... ".

There you go. You have the opportunity to rid us of this idiot by ignoring him.

Seeing all the hatred and intolerance in this thread, between those who consider themselves "religious" and those who do not, where so many respondents are happy to outlaw and persecute the other camp, the question arises:

Why do you, guys, still wish to live in one country where the same laws apply to all? Why should those lucky to muster 51% of votes be oppressing those who could only muster 49%? Why should some who hold certain values ought to dictate the life of others who hold different values and live 1000's of kilometers away?

If you say that defence is the problem, then a defence-pact like NATO could solve that issue, and if the problem is economic, then something like the European-Union and the EURO-zone could handle that. Let us divide Australia into smaller independent states where every one can live decently and happily according to their own religious or otherwise values!