Like in the US, it appears the average person in the UK has rejected the virtue signalling marxist, lying liberal media and political elite. They want to control their own borders, not be ruled by the anti semitic UN and want people to respect democracy (Brexit). I wonder how long before the Marxist mob start to demonstrate and throw tantrums like the democrats in US have been doing for 3 years

Great result. Note that Boris Johnson spoke directly to the electorate, and made the media irrelevant. The media said he was hiding!

Great result

certainly was ttbn. Not a fan of Boris but you must give him credit. The swamp spent many years throwing tantrums over the will of the people. Kinda like the corrupt democrats in US who simply can't accept the will of the people .In UK, the remainers among the tories joined the rest of the traitors of democracy. Nice to have Morrison, Boris and Trump now in power. May Morrison might become a bit bolder and push back against globalist and get out of Paris.

well just as I predicted in opening this post the anti democratic Antifa thugs/deviants just won't accept the will of the people. Same mob who backed Stegall.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7790371/Bitter-Remainers-waving-EU-flags-gather-outside-Downing-Street-protest-Boris-Johnson-win.html

Runner,

Be thankful that Jerry the jew hater didn't fool the Brits. Good riddance to him.

Cheers

Rule Britannia!!

Big laugh for me here
See Labour [spell it differently there] took pure Socialist agenda in to the election
And a Muffet so far left of reality he was beaten before the first vote
But yes they want to leave the EU others will too
Germany must stop trying to own all of Europe via the EU
Refugees and Migration will kill the EU

yep laughter is a good medicine Belly. Enjoy.

Enjoy too the truth it was posted here that extreme left lost[ labor did and was too far left] the election
A truth, folk who use terms like that are uninformed Trump like, and in the end not well aware

What a terrific result for Europe. They finally get to rid themselves of the whinging poms who basically haven't stopped sooking since they joined.

It is also a win for British businesses who felt EU pollution controls were too restrictive and for government ministers who repeatedly ignored pollution targets and had to be held accountable in the courts.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jan/14/uk-failed-to-enforce-eu-air-quality-standards-what-will-happen-after-brexit

It should also mean a big win for the drive for Scottish independence. There is rank hypocrisy being displayed by Brexiteers who are resisting objecting to the Scots seeking to be free from the dictates of the British government. Hopefully they will get their freedom sooner than later. Ireland will also be interesting to watch.

Yep SR the poms would be well rid of the bludging Scots. The poms should give them them a shove, & let them collapse along with the bureaucrat blighted EU.

Dear Hasbeen,

The UK was the only EU member who gets a substantial rebate on their calculated contribution.

"The UK rebate (or UK correction) is a financial mechanism that reduces the United Kingdom's contribution to the EU budget in effect since 1985. It is a complex calculation which equates to a reduction of approximately 66% of the UK's net contribution – the amount paid by the UK into the EU budget less receipts from the EU budget."
Wikipedia

This has meant other countries like Germany, France and Denmark have had to make up the difference.

It has been a constant sore point and having the UK constantly trying to throw its weight around without paying its proper dues has been corrosive. I think the EU will work more collegiality now the whingers are going

SR,

You seem to be taking the thrashing of the left whinge Labour party personally.

WRT to Scottish independence, as the last referendum on this issue was 5 yrs ago and delivered a decisive No vote with Nicola Sturgeon herself declaring that this was a once in a generation issue the rationale for a second referendum is not there.

As Scotland is heavily subsidised by the UK and has 80% of its trade there, independence with the UK and a tariff wall would be ruinous.

Secondly with the UK being the 2nd biggest and one of the fastest growing economies in the EU as well as a substantial net donor, the loss of the UK without a substantial free market deal with the EU would damage the EU significantly especially France and Germany that export significantly to the UK.

"They finally get to rid themselves of the whinging poms..."

The EU has spent the last three years putting every possible obstacle in the path of Brexit, tried every possible method to force the Brits to stay.

And now that all their efforts have been thwarted by an people who won't be cowed by the authoritarians in Brussels, they claim that they really wanted to go all the time.

Some people who themselves never learn their history, assume others are likewise.

I told of the result here weeks ago, and like it!
See it is past time Labor and Labour grew up
The very left is and always has been unelectable
Australian Labor is well on the way to distancing itself from the true left [greens and some within itself]
As it must, too EU insistence on refugee/migrant numbers , highlights the next big thing
It imports poverty build enclaves of separatism lowers wages and the world is firming on this issue
Corbyn is a left wing dreamer who became his party's nightmare, the only achievement he was ever going to get done

SR do you actually believe this garbage you post here, or are you simply hoping to fool some of the less bright readers?

You do really do make a fool of yourself, trying to twist the meaning of things old feller.

Dear mhaze,

You wrote;

"The EU has spent the last three years putting every possible obstacle in the path of Brexit, tried every possible method to force the Brits to stay."

What? You are kidding right? It wasn't the EU asking for repeated extensions, it was the bloody poms. Don't go rewriting history already, it is very unbecoming.

Dear Fester,

You wrote;

"Be thankful that Jerry the jew hater didn't fool the Brits. Good riddance to him."

Name a single utterance from Corbyn which would allow you to use that pathetic slur against him.

hopefully Boris can just learn a little from Trump who has done such a brilliant job in the US. He has made a complete fool out of left wing economist, Hollywood, lying liberal media and academia. No wonder the swamp keep digging in deeper with their lying and unwillingness to accept democracy. Quite refreshing to see.

SR,

That Corbyn is buddies with Hamas is a slam dunk for him being an anti semite.

Dear Shadow Minister,

Nope.

Doesn't make him an anti-Semite.

Anything else?

pleased to see Steelies denial. Just means in Australia, US and Britian the anti semetic Greeens/Labour/democrats will remain in opposition for a long time. They will just rewrite the narrative and resist any true reflection. Did not join the 'not my pm' facist did you Steelie. Denial certainly part of the regressive dna.

maybe Labour can contact the democrats in America and work out how to lie, manipulate and misuse power to reject the will of the people again like they have in the US. I wonder if the swamp is as deep in academia, media and politics as in America.

As I understand it Labor was how it was spelt universally. Then a practice by the English to add a "U" to make it appear more French and sophisticated? So Labor is really the correct spelling and this spell change was added to some other words too.
I would be interested in others knowledge and views?

Dear JBowyer,

From Wikipedia;

“In standard Australian English, the word "labour" is spelled with a 'u' (much of Australian English is based on British English). However, the political party uses the spelling "Labor", without a 'u'. There was originally no standardised spelling of the party's name, with "Labor" and "Labour" both in common usage. According to Ross McMullin, who wrote an official history of the Labor Party, the title page of the proceedings of Federal Conference used the spelling "Labor" in 1902, "Labour" in 1905 and 1908, and then "Labor" from 1912 onwards.”

“McMullin has observed that "the way the spelling of 'Labor Party' was consolidated had more to do with the chap who ended up being in charge of printing the federal conference report than any other reason".[14] Some sources have attributed the official decision to use "Labor" to King O'Malley, who was born in the United States and was reputedly an advocate of spelling reform; the spelling without a ⟨u⟩ is the standard form in American English.”

If it was optional for them then it is optional for me and I prefer retaining the English spelling far more than the Yank. Perhaps that shows my age.

Dear runner,

Oh come, I know you would rather hide behind the biggest bully you can find, namely Trump, but any true Australian worth his salt is prepared to stick up for the under dog. The Palestinians are a subjugated people by any measure of the word. To label support for their struggle as anti-Semitic is as un-Australian as just about anything.

Look, I do know you fetishise being a yank and thinking of touching Trump's garment hem gives you a bulge, but most of us aren't so enamoured. Perhaps emigrating might be an option for you. Give it some thought.

a supporter of facism calling Trump a bully. You are delusional SR.

Labour is still the way we spell the word, but Labor is the way the Australian party is spelling its name, a deliberate move
Britain is much more left than us
But taking an idiot [the wrong candidate,] with idiotic policies, into an election?
Knowing you would be thrashed?
In the end Corbyn, his true supporters, CLIVE PALMERED every faithful English Labour voter.
Such stupidity [green like] empowers and ensures a continuing rise of rightwing governments
I think I see this countrys Labor has learned that

SR,

The violently racist / homophobic nature of Hamas is similar to the nazis, that Corbyn went further than simply supporting their struggle by attending their funerals etc makes it difficult to separate him from their values. Yes Hamas is wildly anti semetic.

No defense Shadow Minister you speak the truth Corbyn was is and always will be a Jew-hating idiot who lives in a world that died long time ago, Labour may die if it produces his clone to lead

'Harvey Weinstein is Sad People Aren’t Remembering What a Pioneer for Women He Was'

lefties and denial go hand in hand.

SR,

" It wasn't the EU asking for repeated extensions, it was the bloody poms."

True. And the EU kept granting them. Very strange behaviour for people who were, you claimed, anxious "to rid themselves of the whinging poms".

The fact is that both the British political class and the Eurocrats were anxious to reverse the Brexit referendum. That's why a 2nd referendum was always their priority. For them, on both sides, the game plan was to draw it out, make it so complex and hard to achieve that the Brits would eventually throw their hands up and surrender to their political 'betters'. It had worked before with quite a number of 'do-over' votes in the past getting people who'd voted the wrong way to do as they were told.

The problem for the anti-Brexiteers on both sides of the channel was that the Brits (surprisingly!) were made of sterner stuff and had leaders like Farage who kept them on topic. So a 2nd vote was out of the question since every poll showed it'd fail. They're game was to kill it in parliament and then get a claytons Brexit where nothing changed.

Now that all that's out the window, their apologists are anxiously trying to claim that black is white.

"Don't go rewriting history already"

My experience is that often, people complaining of history being re-written, are in fact expressing shock that there was a history that they were unaware of.

Runner RUOK that post do you truly believe it?.
Do you like women? yes, know the act of recreation is the original sin for some faiths [while sexually assaulting little boys is not?].
But what evidence can you produce to first clear him, second prove some left conspiracy is behind his current troubles.
A that the women lied ?.
I hope you are ok, I truly watched a few mates outlive their brain it hurt.

Dear mhaze,

Struth mate you do make things up.

The poms could have left with a hard exit at any time. They didn't. Even Boris wouldn't do it. The EU repeatedly cut them slack yet you are somehow claiming it was just a conspiracy to make the UK stay and it is all the EU's fault?

That is just ludicrous.

As for Farage repeatedly lying to the public was his main contribution. Now you are lauding the little twerp.

SR,

" yet you are somehow claiming it was just a conspiracy "

I deliberately DIDN'T use the word conspiracy because I knew you'd then go off on a semantic tangent. But you did it anyway. When you've got nothing else...

"it is all the EU's fault"
Specifically didn't apportion blame. Both the Eurocrats and the British political class had the same aims. Their efforts almost succeeded but for Johnson, his closest advisors and Farage.

If the EU really wanted the UK out they could have forced it any time after Article 50 was activated. They didn't because they didn't. (want them out).

"As for Farage repeatedly lying to the public was his main contribution."

Saying things you don't want to be true isn't lying.

The real worry for the EU is a British success post-Brexit. Trump has promised a hasty trade agreement. The rest of the anglosphere will follow suit. Most of the Remain scare-campaign will be shown to be wrong. London will remain the financial hub of Europe. Maybe even more so. Some of the countries in the old eastern bloc who are not entirely thrilled with Merkel's moslem out-reach will be looking at Britain carefully and pondering whether they might get out from under the Franco-German authoritarians also. That's what keeps the Eurocrats up at night.

The election result confirmed Britain, part of it wanted to leave the EU.
It too showed Corbyn's policies, his march back to the mid-1950,s, was a joke
But the most important thing, time will prove, is the not conservatives MUST relook at and renew, their policies
Bring the voters to them? more like bring those parties to the voters
Or? concede they do not want to win elections

It would appear that Labour has largely abandoned the working class. It is notable that the red islands in the electoral map are largely university towns.

Dear Shadow Minister,

You wrote this bit of rubbish;

"Secondly with the UK being the 2nd biggest and one of the fastest growing economies in the EU"

Rot!

The pom's economy has tanked under the tories. The UK is in the bottom 10% of GDP growth in Europe.

Click here and sort by last.

http://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/gdp-annual-growth-rate?continent=europe

Shadow Minister what rot!.
Truth is [as it is in part here] the working class abandoned Labour.
Corbyn brought the very left with him, they together took the party in to places workers no longer want to go
Painful? well not to me but to those dreaming of a left of reality government here and there yes very much so

SR,

Are you seriously that stupid that you can take a snapshot of one quarter and use that as the benchmark for this century? You are indeed one slippery dick.

Look at these: over 25yrs:

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/gdp-growth-annual
https://tradingeconomics.com/denmark/gdp-growth-annual
https://tradingeconomics.com/france/gdp-growth-annual
https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/gdp-growth-annual
https://tradingeconomics.com/italy/gdp-growth-annual

The UK growth compares favourably to any of these other major economies.

SM,

Yep. Very true. When you said the UK was the second biggest economy in Europe you were spot on.

As to GDP, (cherry-)picking one quarter and one of the many versions of the data shows a lack of rigour.

You might also want to look at the UK v. Germany in terms of GDP to better show your point....

http://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/germany-gdp-growth-annual.png?s=grgdppgy&v=201911221158V20191105&d1=20091220&url2=/united-kingdom/gdp-growth

You can generate these charts from the "tradingeconomics.com" site you linked above. There is a 'compare' button that allows you to load two countries side by side.

Dear mhaze,

Lol.

So you have posted a graph showing the UK economy has entered negative territory 5 times since the GFC all under the tories while the Germany economy didn't go there once, and you are saying it proves Shadow Minister's point not mine?

Get real.

SR,

Well the graph can't be used as you are trying to do. The UK numbers are quarterly and the German numbers annual. Even so it should be clear to anyone even vaguely numerate that the UK performance has outpaced that of Germany.

But standard SR here. Seek out some ambiguity and pretend its consequential.

Here's a better rendering of the comparison showing both country's annual performance...
http://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/united-kingdom-gdp-growth-annual.png?s=ukgrybzy&v=201911111008V20191105&d1=20091221&url2=/germany/gdp-growth-annual

Oh, look SR. There was a period there back in 2011 when the Germans were doing better than the Brits. Tell us how that's the really important number.

Dear mhaze,

Lol.

Mate you are a riot. Some might say a pig ignorant simpleton but I just say just someone who gets lost when things get even a little bit complicated.

Look at your graph again. There are two indexes, the UK one on the left and the German on the right.

So in 2018 the Annual GDP growth for Germany was twice that of the UK but the layout of the graph has the line going well under that of the UK.

I get that this kind of thing is a struggle for you so if you would like me to repeat the above a touch more slowly I certainly will oblige.

SR,

Mhaze didn't compare the same indicators.

Try this, this shows the UK doing slightly better than Germany:

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/gdp-growth-annual

OK SR,

Its clear that you are going to play games and refuse to see what's plainly in front of you. So let's stop trying to show you the results in easily understood pictures and give the raw numbers....

All numbers in US$Billion

UK GDP:
2011....2,635
2018....2,828
Growth...7.3%

Germany GDP:
2011....3,748
2018....3,951
Growth...5.4%

France GDP:
2011....2,864
2018....2,780
Growth...-2.9%

So not bottom 10% no matter what cherry-picked data you might scrounge.

Rather than tanking the UK economy, despite the best efforts of the Remainers and the Eurocrats, the Tories have still managed to make the UK one of the dynamos of Europe.

Just wait until they can operate without the weight of Brussels holding them back.

Dear mhaze,

“So let's stop trying to show you the results in easily understood pictures”

Oh my dear Lord. Lol.

You couldn't even understand your own pictures.

How on earth do you live with such cognitive dissidence? Come on mate, just a wee mea culpa at least. You stuffed up hugely and you think you can ignore it and move on without any apology?

Sorry mate, not going to happen. Why should I bother checking this latest lot when you won't own up to shovelling stuff under our noses which you claimed to say one thing when instead it said the opposite?

Time to fess up.

SR,

"you claimed to say one thing when instead it said the opposite?"

Well it didn't say the opposite but I'll agree that it was somewhat convoluted to discern the truth, especially when one doesn't approach it with a desire to see the truth rather than defend a bogus claim. Since you didn't approach it in that way, I decided to give you the actual numbers.

I'm fascinated as to what device you'll use to ignore them as well.

Tories tanked the economy? Back to the drawing board SR.

SR,

Considering that you stuffed up royally, you are in no position to criticise.

Dear mhaze,

You really are incorrigible aren't you.

Your misreading of the indices on your own graph led you to make the following;

“There was a period there back in 2011 when the Germans were doing better than the Brits.”

You now know that wasn't true yet you still refuse to acknowledge it at all but instead claim I 'didn't approach it properly'. What on earth are you talking about. I think you meant I needed to approach it entirely uncritically because then you wouldn't once again be shown with your pants around your ankles.

Come on mate, fess up properly so we can move on.

Dear Shadow Minister,

Lol.

No stuff ups here old boy but you have not had a good run of late have you. Not quite as bad as mhaze who has had a shocker, but pretty close. Can't wait to see your next effort. I need the laughs.

Look, both of you are making errors galore, to be fair ones that you wouldn't have done in the past. It is like you have been inhabiting some of those right wing echo chambers where you can pump this stuff out without being challenged. Time to give them a miss.

SR,

That you have lost just about every point of contention and still claim victory is astounding. The UK is the second biggest economy in the UK and one of the fastest growing in spite of your protests.

Well mate, it should be easy for you to tell us just one I have lost. Take your pick.

SR,

That's easy, every one, it would be easier to pick which argument you haven't lost.

For starters "The pom's economy has tanked under the tories. The UK is in the bottom 10% of GDP growth in Europe."

Was utter bollocks