Dear Is Mise,

And what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

I have been constantly asking for instances where Pascoe misquoted or invented or inaccurately delivered quotes from the explorer's diaries. Nothing. Loudmouth had a crack and crashed and burned.

Yet you are attempting to make the case that his aboriginality is pivotal to the truth of Dark Emu. Yet by the standard you have set above it most certainly doesn't.

How about a little consistency my friend.

Steele,

How about disproving all those official documents?

Just shew that the silly woman is wrong, that she is lying and you've proved that Pascoe isn't telling fibs about his ancestry and is not operating under false pretences.

Go on, you can do it.

Hi there Issy,

The onus is on the accuser to provide the evidence to prove the accusation. And as Steele has rightly pointed out, you or Joe or any of the extreme right forum posters has as yet to provide creditable evidence that a claim made by 'Beat Up'Bolt is true. Until that evidence is forthcoming lets accept Bruce Pascoe is indeed an indigenous Australian.
In the case of 'Beat Up'Bolt himself, it has been shown that this far right clown fabricated his so called "attack" by nasty lefties, this was done for political purposes. The clown should have been prosecuted for wasting police time and resources!
This accusation against a truly decent Australian in Bruce Pascoe, by a right wing fanatic is disgusting 'Beat Up'Bolt should be condemned for what he is, a grubby political smearmonger!

Issy, have we got you on board on this?

Paul,

I was born on the Left and I'll die on the Left, despite all the poseurs and frauds already within that broad church. I'm proud of the good intentions of my late parents who, I think, went to their graves unrepentantly Leninists. So please move on from your half-witted dichotomy of the world into 'yours' and the 'extreme right'. You're better than that, I'm sure :)

First, Pascoe has not provided any evidence that he is Indigenous. Second, nobody has provided any evidence that there ever was any farming, as conventionally defined, anywhere in Australia - nor was there, by the way, in most of the world until a thousand or so years ago, including across Europe. It's a very rare and precious form of economy.

As for this idiotic focus on what a few early observers have written (and now thoroughly misquoted and misinterpreted), doesn't it strike you as weird that some of the very people - like Sturt - who would have been in the forefront (as SA's Chief Secretary) of trying to eliminate all traces (how does anybody do that ?) of farming in SA, and elsewhere ?

And to cut to the chase, where is there any evidence of pre-European farming - what is conventionally perceived as 'farming' - anywhere in Australia ? Not just in the landscape, but in the culture ? In songs, rituals, legends, etc. ? In the very languages themselves ? Doesn't this mean anything to you ? How on earth could all that have been eliminated ? Yet there are multitudes of such rituals, language terms, etc., in relation to hunting/gathering societies ? In short, there is no evidence of farming; there is plenty of evidence of foraging.

And since 'self-determination', how many communities and groups have moved rapidly back to farming as their ancestors were supposed to know all about ? None ? Any difficulties experienced by missionaries or community-development workers etc. since the 1820s in trying to persuade people to set up gardens and orchards ? I wasted years trying that.

Too ridiculous.

Joe

Paul,There is documented evidence that Pascoe is not Aboriginal in anyway and he dithers so much on the subject that it appears that he doesn't know himself.

As for farming there is not one shred of evidence that Australian Aboriginals ever farmed anything..

Pascoe is a fraud.

Comrade Joe, I don't consider you or Issy to be of the extreme right, in fact we only have a couple of such on the forum. If you read what I said I actually separated you and Issy from those nutters; "you (Is Mise) or Joe, or any of the extreme right forum posters".

I see it as dangerous ground when asking someone for their "racial background", it was famously done in the past in another place at another time, its not done with white folk, why is it necessary with Bruce Pascoe? Yes, bring up the money aspect, but Pascoe contributes much value to the indigenous debate.

Why is Bolt not questioning, say the PM's background. Should someone assert Bolt is descended from baboons, should he be made prove he's not?