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Is Bruce Pascoe an Indigenous Australian?
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Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 27 December 2019 6:10:08 AM
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Dear Shadow Minister,
As a generalist rather than an historian Pascoe gets a bit more licence from me on these things and I would agree there are some things he pushes to the limit but there isn't anything I have found that doesn't have a degree of validity. There are plenty of examples of democracy within Aboriginal culture and of government. The fact that so many language groups had developed and remained in place at the time of the invasion shows there was not widespread wars wiping out tribe after tribe until the strongest prevailed. The Maori language is universal in NZ with some dialect differences between the North and South islands. In Australia there were over 300 distinct language groups. As to the 120,000 years this comes from the palynologal work done in SE Australia which shows altered fire regimes starting about that time. While this is suggestive of human interaction with the land it is certainly not definitive (and is in dispute), however the claim is not without scientific basis. Perhaps rather than quoting from he Australian you might buy the book so at least we can discuss what is and isn't in the thing rather than this second hand garbage you keep bringing to the table. Dear Is Mise, You keep dribbling out this inanity; “I perused the book and it is badly written, badly edited etc., one only needs to work from the index.” Yet you have repeatedly failed to give a single instance of poor writing or editing. Either put up or shut up would be my suggestion. Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 27 December 2019 9:42:08 AM
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Steele,
What has the book got to do with Pascoe's claim of Aboriginal ancestry? Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 27 December 2019 10:30:53 AM
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Dear Is Mise,
You raised it; “I perused the book and it is badly written, badly edited etc., one only needs to work from the index.” And I responded; "you have repeatedly failed to give a single instance of poor writing or editing. Either put up or shut up would be my suggestion." Your call. Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 27 December 2019 10:33:13 AM
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Steele,
I didn't raise it, it was a comment but as this thread is about Pascoe's alleged Aboriginal descent; what has the book got to do about it? You keep evading the issue despite having been given reference to official documents that disprove his claim. Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 27 December 2019 11:22:23 AM
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Dear Is Mise,
You write; “I didn't raise it, it was a comment but as this thread is about Pascoe's alleged Aboriginal descent; what has the book got to do about it?” Well let's see how often you have directly referenced the book; “My motivation is to seek the truth and to expose fraud, and, hopefully, to help stop the bull that Pascoe has written being taught as truth to school children.” http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=9019#296273 “In truth, I haven't read 'Dark Emu'; I have however perused it but I found it to be pretentious and badly written and badly edited and as it took ages for the local library to get a copy.” http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=9019#296306 “As I siad(sic) his book 'Dark Emu' is badly written, badly edited and , to be charitable, somewhat mishandles the truth.” http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=9019#296743 “Shew me where Mitchell writes about towns of a thousand; Pascoe's farming claim is the most demonstrably false of his often weird assumptions.” http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=9019#296797 Note the fact is that Dark Emu does not quote Mitchell writing about towns of a thousand which would have been evident if you have read the bloody thing. You then spend another 5 posts talking about stooked grain from the book. Then again; “I perused the book and it is badly written, badly edited etc., one only needs to work from the index.” http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=9019#297261 You have raised the book multiple times so you really don't get to assert; “this thread is about Pascoe's alleged Aboriginal descent; what has the book got to do about it?” do you. Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 27 December 2019 5:24:42 PM
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Another one who has not read the book, an "F" my boy. Unless you can provide references to passages in Bruce Pascoe's book 'Dark Emu' which align with the above then its simply misquoting or lies. None of what you have posted is in the book in that context from my reading of it.
Where does it say; "indigenous Australians were not hunter-gatherers". No one including Pascoe is denying Aboriginal people were in large measure hunter-gatherers. The rest of your post is taken wildly out of context.
Issy, Joe, Shadow, my advice, join a library, the books are free to borrow and read. If you can't read then there is the children's section with picture book for you, 'Noddy and Big Ears in Fantasy Land' you will all enjoy.....your in fantasy land now with Pascoe's book!