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Climate Not As Hot As You Predicted? Then Hot Up The Language!

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Misopinionated,

Your medieval thinking is starting to show:

"They might drag you all out into the streets by your heels and burn you at the stake as climate witches!"

Yes, indeed, the way things are going, yes, that might start to happen by the pig-ignorants: in the Middle Ages, any dissenters like Galileo or Cellini could be tortured or burnt at the stake, basically for disagreeing with the dominant ideology.

So you want to go back to those intolerant days ?

Yes, of course there is climate change, and some of it caused by human production and release of CO2. So how can we take some of that CO2 out of the atmosphere, to bring the CO2 level down to the optimal level for plant growth ? Yes, change electricity production technologies, perhaps nuclear; and also plant far more vegetation and trees - which means better watering systems.

Or you could do us all a favour and glue yourself to a major roadway. We could bring you sandwiches :)

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Sunday, 8 December 2019 10:35:13 AM
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ttbn,

You are very slow at picking up on the movement that little Greta Thunberg has started. There are now millions of little Greta Thunbergs all eager to carry out her calling and may more millions will follow them in the next couple of decades.

I think you are wrong in saying little Greta Thunberg is old news. Isn't she currently in Spain carrying on the cause at the UN Climate Change Conference? So I would not say she has left the scene as you seem to think. Wishful thinking on your part me thinks.

I think you are truly worried about all of those little Greta Thunbergs coming down the road. And I think there must be a lot of politicians and elites in the world who are also very worried about them. This could and probably will turn out to be one of the biggest social movements in human history.

PS Why would I lie about my qualifications? I'm quite proud of what I am. I like being a sociologist and studying people, even if they happen to be very odd like you and your fellow denialists.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 8 December 2019 10:36:01 AM
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This was posted by a person claiming to be educated:

"The AGW denialists are on the same par with the Holocaust denialists".
People don't come more ignorant than that; nor can they go any lower. To drag the slaughter of 6 million human beings into a discussion on dodgy science about climate change is disgusting.

".. Why would I lie about my qualifications? I'm quite proud of what I am. I like being a sociologist and studying people, even if they happen to be very odd like you and your fellow denialists".

People lie about all sorts of things. They usually lie to boost their fragile egos. Noone lies that they never made it out of primary school, for instance. Even if you are a sociologist - and actually have a job - you admit that you just study people and what they think, not climate science. How people react to climate change says nothing about the validity of AGW - and studying people, not science, is all you've done, buster. And, even then, you have learned absolutely nothing about your fellow human beings.

It's time to ignore you in the same way I ignore the other fanatical brainwashed Leftists.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 8 December 2019 11:48:38 AM
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ttbn,

Good try but your retort is totally illogical.

You know as well as everybody else that AGW denialists distort science but just do not want to accept the fact that you act similarly to other denial groups. There's nothing wrong with making the comparison. What is wrong is that you don't want to face the reality behind your own actions.

Half a million people marched behind little Greta Thunberg in Madrid last night. And you're now afraid because you think they might be looking for climate witches like yourself to burn. Do you really think they'll strap you to a stake and set fire to you? Is that what you're afraid of?

Poor, poor ttbn. I truly pity you.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 8 December 2019 12:40:11 PM
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Hasbeen,
> Aidan, how many people with SUV do you think it took to start & then stop the last ice age.
Can you find the answer if I say "Hasbeen ought to be able to work that out himself"?

I never claimed CO2 to be the only factor affecting the climate, so your strawman falls at the first hurdle. What I am saying is we've put so much extra CO2 into the atmosphere that it has become by far the biggest cause of climate change.

> You are talking such garbage to query the Dalton Minimum,
On the contrary, querying everything is the very basis of science! It's what happens afterwards that's key - the reasonable ones follow the evidence, while those who talk garbage ignore the evidence.

Anyway, I didn't query the existence of the Dalton Minimum; I merely queried the extent of its effects. It is known that volcanic eruptions (and specifically the resulting ash clouds) have a substantial cooling effect on the planet, and they were directly responsible for a lot of the cooling during the Dalton Minimum.

>Surely you can see the stupidity of this by the fact that Mr O, the resident clown, is supporting you.
There are so many resident clowns on this board that their support or opposition means nothing.
And judging by your ludicrous claims about Greta Thumberg, I'd count you in their ranks!
Posted by Aidan, Monday, 9 December 2019 1:29:24 AM
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ttbn,
Thanks for the insight into the reasons for your denials. I suggest you reconsider the implications:
>If this "climate emergency" really exists, then we are doomed.
W have the power to mitigate the extent of climate change, and also to mitigate its effects. The latter strategy is more expensive than the former strategy, though we've neglected the former for so long that both are now needed to some extent. And that's still preferable to being doomed.

> You have to be a complete and utter idiot to think we are going to be all drowned or frizzled or
>desiccated unless we stop emitting CO2, and yet renounce the only possible solution - nuclear power;
Nuclear power is not the only solution. In Australia it's not even the cheapest solution. Having said that, it does have significant advantages, and if I were the UK PM my policies would include building a few more power stations in England.

> an idiot or, you have a regimented mind conditioned to accept whatever you are told by a higher power.
Did you fail to notice how much of that there is on the denialist side?

> The sort that says 'believe the science" when you don't understand the science,
Typically the denialists assume not only that their opponents don't understand the science, but that the scientists don't understand the science. Have you even considered the possibility that you don't understand the science?

And as for the rent seekers, look at the coal industry!
Posted by Aidan, Monday, 9 December 2019 1:43:59 AM
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