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Climate Not As Hot As You Predicted? Then Hot Up The Language!

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Joe,
> other awards ( a certificate, two TAFE diplomas, an honours, three PG diplomas and two Ms) are not strictly degrees.
What do you mean by Ms?

>That the coasts are going to be swamped in a very short time, ten years being the period of choice ?
Put a sock in it!
Just because a few of the more alarmist environmentalists thirty years ago were predicting sea level rises that fast doesn't mean that was a widespread belief. It certainly wasn't what the scientists were predicting. It was around that time that a lot of the climate modelling started, and they soon realised that the sea level rises would be over a much longer timescale (though it looks like it's starting to happen faster than they predicted). Don't make the mistake of conflating the time available to prevent something from happening with the time until it happens.

Meanwhile we're still increasing the rate at which we're increasing the concentration of atmospheric CO2.
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ttbn,
> Humans are NOT the cause. The climate is changing because of nature
Humans were the cause of a 50% increase of the atmospheric CO2 concentration above its preindustrial levels. What makes you so sure this isn't what's caused the global warming?

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Hasbeen,
It's unclear how much cooling the Dalton Minimum was responsible for and how much is just coincidental. But it's clear the relationship of temperature with atmospheric CO2 is much stronger than that with sunspot activity.
Posted by Aidan, Sunday, 8 December 2019 1:21:29 AM
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Dear Aidan,

From the above, it's obvious you know what you are talking about.

I'm an environmental sociologist so I am primarily interested in the human face of what I am now calling our environmental crisis. Because I speak in terms of sociology the denialists like Hasbeen, Loudmouth, ttbn, etc., think that I'm just making a personal attack on them. That's because they don't understand that the focus of my interest is people themselves.

And that tells me that they as denialists don't see people as being responsible for AGW and its consequential environmental crisis. So they look for scientific explanations even though none of them have scientific training and lack the skills and knowledge to debate the science.

My research covers mainly what scholars and scientists are saying about the environmental crisis (again I emphasise that what we are now dealing with is an environmental crisis and not just an aberration that will go away by itself the way the denialists want people to believe).

The AGW denialists are on the same par with the Holocaust denialists. The Holocaust denialists try to distort history whereas the AGW denialists distort science. Their areas are different but they are both about corrupting knowledge in their ignorance of truth.

Loudmouth apparently doesn't regard an honours, postgrad diplomas, and masters as degrees, which I find a bit odd. I have a BE, BA and 2 x MAs and call each a degree. So I don't know what planet he's from, but here on Earth we call them degrees.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 8 December 2019 7:46:01 AM
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If this "climate emergency" really exists, then we are doomed. You have to be a complete and utter idiot to think we are going to be all drowned or frizzled or desiccated unless we stop emitting CO2, and yet renounce the only possible solution - nuclear power; an idiot or, you have a regimented mind conditioned to accept whatever you are told by a higher power. The sort that says 'believe the science" when you don't understand the science, but have blind faith in people who tell you to believe them. People like rent-seekers and ABC activists with grants to be gained or axes to be ground.

If you have this kind of fundamentalist faith, then stay in bed and wait to die. You are doomed. The human beings you blame for climate change are growing in numbers, and a few Dark Ages windmills and glittery things on roofs are not going to top the end of the world that your 'higher beings' (rogue scientists) say is coming if we don't "do something". Actually, the consequences these gods predicted have come and gone several times now; but, of course, your blind faith prevents you from recognising that
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 8 December 2019 9:46:50 AM
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ttbn,

I am calling it more than a climate emergency. I'm calling it an environmental crisis.

And you are one of the people responsible for it. We have you and people like you to blame for it.

When all of the little Greta Thunbergs get older and become politically active they will let you know with their votes exactly what they think of people like you. If I was you or one of the many people like you I would be very worried about what all of those little Greta Thunbergs have in store for you.

They might drag you all out into the streets by your heels and burn you at the stake as climate witches!
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 8 December 2019 10:07:24 AM
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'little Greta Thunberg' is already old news. The media has lost interest. And, if you are not lying about your qualifications as you have lied about everything else, then your education has been a waste of money, which hasn't even landed you a job.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 8 December 2019 10:14:42 AM
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Aidan, how many people with SUV do you think it took to start & then stop the last ice age.

You are talking such garbage to query the Dalton Minimum, when every low sun spot period has led to similar, if less sever events.

Surely you can see the stupidity of this by the fact that Mr O, the resident clown, is supporting you.

I do feel just a little sorry for Greta Thunberg, it must be hard not to be mad at the world when born so ugly, but that gives her no right to run around talking such garbage. Her & your totally fact free assertions are just showing that there is no evidence that global warming theory has no scientific basis.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 8 December 2019 10:22:33 AM
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