Hi SteeleRedux,
"As to Marcott what is your point?"
I agree! Exactly! MHAZE you need to quote a paragraph and show us you're not just full of it! Or is it 'the vibe of the thing'? ;-)

You said "25% of the last 12000 yrs were warmer than now". http://tinyurl.com/rx5cxll You scalded us for not knowing the actual science, but then failed to demonstrate that you know anything other than bald-faced lies from paid up members of the denial club! ;-) That wasn't predictable! ;-) http://tinyurl.com/wv2beee

Then you just linked to a gish-gallop, trying to hide behind the 'vibe of the thing' again. http://tinyurl.com/s6amlkb

But you studiously avoid burrowing down into any specific paragraph from all those texts.

Last call. If you HAVE information about the MWP proving it was warmer than today, THEN SHARE IT!

PUT UP OR SHUT UP!

Dear Max Green and SteeleRedux,

Please stop picking on mhaze. You are making his $1 brain hurt.

mhaze cannot understand how AGW is changing the environment. We need to take this into consideration when trying to explain things to the denialists. They just do not understand how the world works.

To Max Green.

I don't know how long you've been on OLO, but have you seen one of Alan B's posts on deinionized Salt reactors? If we're looking at making more reactors and pumping money into that infrastructure, then having one of those might be worth the investment. It's at least as good as trying renewable energy sources that have turned out less then they promised. Might as well invest in looking for other solution then the ones that are just complained and do nothing more. Something to look into.

For years and years Kirk Sorenson's LFTR looked like the best reactor on the planet, and I was ecstatic.

Then... Ed Pheil, an ex-navy guy, came up with one even better! It's simpler, cheaper, safer, and does not remove waste streams that might be weaponised. I couldn't believe it! Now, you've got to double check everything I say because I'm not a scientist. But the nuclear engineers I know online are very excited by this new salt reactor which instead of being a LFTR 'slow' reactor (aka thermal reactor) is a FAST reactor. It's the MCSFR.

The main advantage? It eats everything! Not just thorium, not just uranium, but spent fuel, plutonium from old bombs, everything!

Has all the usual benefits of a LFTR, PLUS the fact that it can eat anything, not just thorium.

+ It *cannot* melt down because the fuel is already a liquid.
+ It requires power to keep the fuel up in the core and reacting. In a power failure the hot liquid salt pours down to the drain tank and the moment it cools to 400 C the salt crystalises into a solid block that's not going anywhere. Most reactors require power to cool, this one requires power to keep functioning!
+ It burns all the longer-lived 'waste' out of it, getting 90 times the energy out of the waste, turning a 100,000 year storage problem into today's energy solution.
+ The final wastes are fission products that you melt into ceramic blocks and bury under the reactor carpark for 300 years. Then they're safe! Your whole life would only result in 1 golf ball of waste. That volume for Australia would only come to 1.4 Sydney Olympic pools of nuclear waste after 70 years of abundant, reliable, carbon free electricity!
+ Uranium from seawater can run the world for billions of years. It's basically 'renewable' because geological activity and erosion tops up the oceans.

Even this long time Sorenson fan and youtuber is starting to promote Pheil's version of the Molten Salt Reactor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ou_xswB2b0

I again leap in to defend renewables
They are not the forever answer but right now they fill a roll
More and better Battery storage is here and better coming
My system, lights burning every night totally free [battery backed up paid for by me no one else] proves a roll is being played
Blackouts leave neighbors baffled until they are told
Yes however better newer power will come maybe that salt reactor
We if we believe what we are told, could have been running our road traffic on other fuels long ago but are told self interest killed electric cars [not dead yet] and Hydreigon engines

So you've heard of it. Great. Global warming and climite emergencies have become focal points of complaint and no actual action. Instead of actually fighting pollution they hold speeches and continue on misleading research while using up a lot of fossil fuel energy on privite planes. Honestly it's all talk and politics with nothing else except a hole to throw money into. Might as well do something useful instead.

I'm not sure the salt reactor will turn out any better then wind farms or solar energy farms for reliable energy, but at least if it's given a chance it's a better investment to look into then the green energy that apparently has no reliability.

Either way. The point is to reduce pollution, not save the world from a fake disaster that won't happen in the next 5-10 years. There is no climate emergancy. We should spend our focus on the actual enviornmental issues and possible solutions. Climate emergancy was even blamed for wild fires instead of looking for reliable sustainable solutions.

Hope you understand. And good luck. If any of the pridictions for a salt reactor are true then it's worth the investment. Even if it doesn't turn out to be a reliable source of energy, if it can be used for nuclear waste management, then that's a win.