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Love your neighbor

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"The Washington Post obituary read, "Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, austere religious scholar at helm of Islamic State, dies at 48."

He is presented as a religious scholar of Islam; but it should be noted he was a rapist, murderer and violent defender of Islam. He is what Islam is about; Kill your opponent. Never about love your neighbour, he could not accept different world views to his. Only one world view must prevail, similarly with totalitarian communism. Diverse freedoms are not allowed, the State must rule.

Love your neighbour, or rather respect your neighbour as equal human is more to the point; as the term love has become corrupted as it is undefined in the current situation. The rule of personal freedoms have advanced the development of the individual and society.
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 10:12:22 AM
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'My wife is the greatest at meeting and greeting people I've every come across.'

so it is true that opposites attract Paul?
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 10:23:50 AM
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Paul quite true but when mental illness gets a run and that was my case, kindness is not in play
Josephus ok agree the vermin is better off dead along with every single supporter in the world
NEVER forget most of his victims are MUSLIM
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 11:09:38 AM
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To Belly.

I'm not asking you to change for your neighbor's sake. Let me explain it another way.

There's a difference between kindness and vindictiveness. Heck you don't even have to be kind to know the difference between seeking justice, and "giving someone what they deserve." You can go so far as to not help someone and silently celebrate their losses because they deserve what's coming to them even if you didn't have a hand in it. I'm sure you can tell were to draw the line for being vindictive in each of those situations.

For your neighbor, the line is more on the issue of seeking justice (for everyone's sake including the abusive husband), verses either giving them more chances, or doing nothing at all. Seeking justice and giving more chances can both be considered as a type of kindness, while doing nothing is either a lack of love for them, or an acknowledgement that there's nothing that you can do. With justice you can hope that the husband will turn from his behavior and go a different route once he's lost everything. His future is better with that in mind. With giving several second chances you can also allow him to get better without having to lose everything in the wake of a mistake or three. Or it will make you part of his actions because you fail to let him face the consequences that would change him and protect his family.

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 11:53:22 AM
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All of those issues can be a matter of wisdom, something that I don't think any of us will make the right decisions on all the time. Nonetheless, an act of kindness when there is a need for kindness may change things considerably. And that kind of opportunity is not there just because you decide to be kind.

There's a large gap between kindness and vindictiveness. Still, I thought it should be noted anyways. There's also a difference between doing favors for someone without recognition, versus being there for them when they lose a family member, or otherwise are in need of outside kindness. It's might not a matter of you changing for your neighbor, as much as there's been no opportunity to actually help things get better. On the other hand maybe you do need to change. Be willing to be kind, if you've lost that. I don't know you or your neighbors so ?I can't make that judgment call for you.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 11:53:56 AM
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To Paul.

I think a good rule of thumb is to treat others the way you yourself what to be treated. I bet you can look at your wife as being exceptional in this attribute. I know I can look at my wife for the same. She thinks of so much for another person. Such concern or understanding I'm sure from thinking how it would be if she was in their shoes. But even without that understanding to know their situation and understand either their needs or how they might take something, you can still treat someone else in the same way you'd like to be treated yourself. If it doesn't go well the first time, persestance will win out, because I'm sure we all learn when we see someone take what we meant as an act of kindness as insulting or otherwise wrong. Learning the slow way doesn't stop the intent to love your neighbor.

To Josephus.

A question for ya. What does it mean to love your country? I hope you don't share Yuyutsu's conclusion that that is impossible.

I'm sure you can guess my direction for the question, for why that same answer can't be applied to loving a neighbor's country. For the sake of the conversation though, I hope you or anyone else can put it into terms. What it means to love your country. I really was hoping to continue the conversation of what options are available to Australia to love their neighbors, instead of arguing if it was possible for Australia to love it's neighbors.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:14:05 PM
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