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Love your neighbor

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Dear Hasbeen,

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You ask :

« Banjo, do you think it is entirely possible that "Economic modelling by Deloitte Access Economics for Oxfam found" exactly what the organisation commissioning &* paying for the research wanted to be found ? »

That’s a possibility that can’t be ruled out, Hasbeen. There are rogues in many major organisations. Deloitte is one of the "Big Four" accounting organizations and the largest professional services network in the world by revenue and number of professionals. But, as you know, the rule in such cases is “innocent until proven guilty”.

I should be very surprised if your argument that …

« there is no mention of the fact that the overall economy may not suffer too much because of excessive migration, but most of the individual citizens do suffer. The GDP per person is falling & increasingly rapidly. only a few elite benefit from high migration » …

… would be considered conclusive evidence of guilt by any reputable court of law in Australia.

How do you define “excessive migration” ? What evidence can you provide to prove your claim that the Deloitte report is « garbage "research" » ?

Have you reviewed the report ? If so, perhaps you would be so kind as to indicate what prompted you to condemn it in such negative terms.

The GDP per capita in Australia was down 0.2% for the period June 2017 to June 2018 but this came after a 28-year run of steady growth. GDP Annual Growth Rate in Australia averaged 3.44 percent from 1960 until 2019.

There are cyclical and structural phenomena as well as sectorial problems contingent on circumstances that affect the Australian economy but, in my humble opinion, the groundswell factors that will affect us in the long term are our dependence on the Chinese economy and our increasingly conservative aging population.

The need to increase our intake of immigrant workers and (why not?) humanitarian migrants, may not be evident to everyone today, but, in my view, it will become more and more evident as time goes by.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 5:39:18 AM
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Hi westozzy,

I welcome your return to the forum. Unfortunately neighbour disputants are all too common, be it the annoying tree, or noisy lawnmower on a Sunday morning, there is a multitude of possibilities. Some will tell you that the solution is the arming of the populace with guns, aka an American Dodge City mentality. That possibility can only lead to disaster for all and sundry, where things would easily escalate to a violent out of hand situation very quickly, in some instance.

If loving ones neighbour means turning them into a corpse I cannot agree.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 5:53:34 AM
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The Christian principle also deals with enemies. give food and water to a hungry or thirsty opponent, and pray the opponent might be changed to a fellow traveller. These principles have changed societies. That is why Australia give assistance in overseas aid.

However Islam is very much against this motive, as they believe it is deceptive. Their view is kill an enemy, from the papers I have read from the Australian Muslim foundation. Do not trust or make friends with Jews or Christians or infidels, they are your enemy.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 6:12:18 AM
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My solution was quite simple I knocked on his door and told him the disagreement had come to an end as far as I was concerned. Common sense prevailed, sadly he is a very sick person and my love thy neighbor is now directed to his wife and son whos need for my assistance when he has a fall or some other urgency pops up.
Most of the comments here seem to me to be a battle of who knows more than the next person on migration or the acceptance of refugees and the economical cost effect on the country etc. Something as simple as putting a dollar into a can outside a supermarket which Im sure everyone has at sometime is loving thy neighbor even tho it may be for a cat a dog or a local nursing home whatever. Loving your neighbor is your conscience at a time when you have to make a decision are they worth it and do you have any spare love to give. I feel sorry for anyone that has a politician living next door to him or her coz that would be a very difficult decision to make under any circumstances.
Posted by westozzy, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 6:23:19 AM
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A story I remember from the Russian revolution, was of a young Christian woman that was being herded up by Sergei, and she treated him with respect and courtesy. Even though she had been bashed with the but of his gun. After she was imprisoned and sent to Siberia, this incident had an impact on Sergei that he felt he had to escape from the violence of Communism. He writes of his story of how he managed to become a deck hand on ship and while sailing near the Alaskan coast could see lights on the shore, and put on a life jacket and began swimming toward them but became unconscious and found himself washed up on the shore. He later became Christian and writes his story in a book bearing his name.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 6:42:58 AM
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In the real world, not books, it is often impossible to get along with some who live next door
Maybe it is a need some have to isolate themselves but whatever it is it happens
I truly, think turning the other cheek, multiple times, is best but know for some it only gives the opportunity to make things worse
I find myself in that position now, but know had the dog been mine? and constantly tried to kill one of them? while I sat in the house refusing to even call it?
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:32:00 AM
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