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Love your neighbor

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"in general the West have treated neighbours much much better than those who never adopted a Judea Christian ethic."

runner as a hypocritical Christian do you know how unreal that statement is.

WWI in the name of their god the good Christians annihilated 20 million of their own. WWII 60 million etc etc. When it comes to being peace loving in general you cannot beat the Christian's. Those neighbours will love us like we love them, otherwise we'll beat the crap out of em'.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 25 October 2019 5:58:51 PM
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rewriting history again Paul. I take it you make it up as you go along as long as it fits your Green hating narrative.
Posted by runner, Friday, 25 October 2019 6:33:00 PM
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To Yuyutsu and Runner.

I agree with you two that the teaching was given to love people, not countries. However how many people do you need to have compassion on before you have compassion on their home country. Think of commercials for starving children in Africa or in India. Those charity drives made into 30 second clips have been going on for years. And who doesn't feel compassion for those in the video who look malnourished and starved. At some point the question could be asked: "why are we still seeing these images from the same place? Why hasn't the country these are from gotten their act together to help these starving populations?"

It's not a far reach to suggest to love a foreign nation and have compassion on them. We do it for communities who are poor, have gang issues, are homeless, or have health issues. Some even going as far as having a program that is funded to fix the issue. Whether it's city funded through taxes to get rid or gangs or drugs in a city, or it's church sponsored to serve the homeless. Many acts of love for another are not just acted on an individual level, but also towards a community. Some even go as far as a love for their country. Choosing a profession that is aimed at serving the country they love and making it a better place. Teachers, police, and joining the military come to mind, for serving the needs of the country or the people of your home.

Just go one step more then that. What would it mean to love a neighboring country? Pick any country you might have compassion on if you need an example for the question.

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Saturday, 26 October 2019 3:53:36 AM
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Yuyutsu. The debates around immigrants coming is likely what sparked this topic the most. It is a question of what to do for those fleeing their homes, countered with the reality of what it does back home to have no restraint on the borders. Being open to a fleeing population to come and live with you is an act of love on a national level. The government makes that choice, regardless if it is agreed on by everyone affected by it. However this is not the only way to love a neighboring people. Another thought is what can be done for that country, so these people don't have to give up everything and flee from it. If anything could be done at all.

Runner. Financial aid is another option. Though I have less trust in blanket causes asking for money. Some countries the corruption keeps the majority of any aid out of the grasp of the people. Other countries the aid isn't fretted through government agents first and then you can continue on the idea of, "if it's a worthy cause." Nonetheless, the only real way to help is going to cost money no matter how it's looked at. As for the bad neighbors, I think of that like I think of a compassionate person volunteering at a prison. Or a person who used to be a drunk, and now they try to reach others to not throw away their lives for another drink. It's surprising what people do for some of the worse neighbors out there. Of course they act differently trying to help a worse person then you would to help a kind person. Having precaution towards venom filled countries would be as needed as it is in someone trying to reach prison inmates
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Saturday, 26 October 2019 3:56:40 AM
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To ttbn.

If it makes the topic easier to swallow. Then consider it in nonchristian terms. Humanitarian causes instead of love your neighbor. What would it look like to take on another country either as a humanitarian seeking to help, or as more then just an ally country, but also a friend. After all, different countries don't have to be in need to love them. For example, celebrating one of the royal's marriages or their children seems to come and go even in countries that aren't British.

If love is too strong a word. Then what would it mean to be a friend to a neighboring country. In that context look at the opening post one more time. Things people do that try to be beneficial but might be harmful come to mind. Such as the social movements for open borders or global warming as an international push to force other countries to lose their autonomy and accept the rules handed to them. Immigration, trade, finical aid, military aid; all of those can be posed in secular terms of being humanitarian causes instead of the more known phrase "love your neighbor."

There are many bleeding hearts out there that want to heal a broken world. I know I'm one of them, but even if I wasn't, the phenomenon would still be there from a concerned population of the nation. Bleeding hearts aren't going away. So why not take on the issues they so deeply want to fix. Say something like "nope, that cause is worthless, try this instead." Or even "that's a real cause, but it needs to be handled smart, not with your emotions."
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Saturday, 26 October 2019 5:48:59 AM
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"WW in the name of their god the good Christians annihilated 20 million of their own. WWII 60 million etc etc. When it comes to being peace loving in general you cannot beat the Christian's."

What a load of of ignorant BS. Neither world war had a damn thing to do with religion. Both wars were fought for freedom and democracy on our part, and territory and control on the enemy's part. The last time Christians fought a war as Christians was as Crusaders against Islam.

In the second world war, one side (ideology really)- not Christian by any stretch of the imagination - decided to try wiping out Jews, not from a religious point of view, but by dint of the fact that the elite Jews were much smarter than they were. Most Jews were like the rest of us: pretty ordinary, but they copped it too, thanks to the National Socialists, who were about as removed from Christianity as the Communists and today's Greens.

Critics of Christianity, those who hate Christianity, are without exception those who know the least about it. They are totally unaware that their ravings mark them out as complete idiots.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 26 October 2019 8:59:22 AM
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