Meanwhile all that investment in renewables is delivering tangible benefits.
SA had Australia's lowest wholesale electricity costs in October – see http://reneweconomy.com.au/south-australia-had-lowest-cost-of-supply-in-main-grid-in-october-25382/

Aidan,

Stop making misleading statements about 'low' electricity prices. Householders do not pay wholesale prices; they pay retail prices. Prices this year are 38cents per KWH, the same as they were this time last year. Politicians who say prices are coming down are liars.

If you want to be a useful idiot for a bunch of lying politicians and generators, that's your business. But, nobody with any knowledge and common sense takes any notice of you

ttbn,
You are the one making misleading statements.

I SPECIFIED that the link referred to wholesale prices.
I DID NOT CLAIM that householders paid wholesale prices (although allowing householders to buy their electricity on the wholesale market would be a very sensible reform IMO)
I DID NOT CLAIM that retail electricity prices were any cheaper than last year.

So there was not even a hint of deception on my part.

Are you of the opinion that wholesale prices don't matter at all? I'd expect them to result in lower retail prices in the future. But even if they don't, lower wholesale prices are good for the state's industrial competitiveness.

Aidan,

You don't know what you said. In fact, you said nothing; you merely referred to third party information that suited you, which was useless because it merely says the same as you say. You non-original conduits for other peoples' lies and nonsense don't realise that quoting or referring to someone else who agrees with you is never going to convince anyone who thinks differently. Name one poster who has changed his mind because of what you have said.

The IPCC’s modelled pathways show that US $2.4 trillion must be invested in new clean energy every year up to 2035, an almost sevenfold increase on the $333.5 billion invested in renewable energy in 2017. In total, we’re looking at aggregate investment of $48 trillion. The interest bill alone (at say 5 per cent pa) would be $200 billion per month – more than the whole world currently spends on childhood education and environmental protection combined.

All this pain for no gain. And the pain will be suffered by ordinary consumers.

ttbn,
>You don't know what you said.
Yu seem to be having a bit of pronoun trouble there, mate!

>In fact, you said nothing;
So having wrongly criticised me for saying something I didn't say, you now dismiss it as noting?

>you merely referred to third party information that suited you,
Having recently been criticised by Hasbeen for making bold statements without posting supporting evidence, I make no apologies for linking to the evidence!

>which was useless because it merely says the same as you say.
Are you saying evidence is useless when it concurs with my summary of it?

The article does go beyond what I said: for instance it showed what the wholesale prices were in each state on the NEM.

>You non-original conduits for other peoples' lies and nonsense
You think SA didn't have the lowest wholesale electricity prices in the NEM last month? Then perhaps you could try to identify the flaw in their methodology or data?

> don't realise that quoting or referring to someone else who agrees with you is never
>going to convince anyone who thinks differently.
It may surprise you to learn that not everyone is s stupid and pigheaded as you - most people can be swayed by evidence. But that doesn't mean they announce it when they do. And if they're sensible, they'll probably seek confirmation from other sources first.