On Belly's thread "Climate" some mentioned the fragility of nature.

Fragile nature is a a good catch cry, just as global warming was, before we discovered the planet is cooling again, & they had to change to climate change. For the green movement fragile nature is better, as so few actually get to see nature in the wild.

Ask any grazier just how hard it is, & how much effort must go into keeping improved range land free of woody regrowth intrusion. Or read the following.

I spend some time cruising around the Pacific islands in my yacht. You know, where the yanks won the war, & saw first hand what nature does to the constructs of man, & just how quickly.

One perfect example is Nissan or Green Island PNG At it's peak during WW2 it had 2 large air strips, a large Black Cat amphibious facility, including acres of hard stand, a normal Catalina base, facilities for a number of squadrons of PT boats, over 18,000 men, & the infrastructure to support them. Facilities included Quonset huts on 4Ft thick cement bases to support machinery of a major repair base & more than 10 jetties in the lagoon.

Decommissioned in 1945, & abandoned as is, by 1974 just 29 years later I could find only a small part of one airstrip, now the local light plane airport & the remains of some cement slabs with large trees growing through them.

The Treacheries were even more back to nature. Similar to Nissan in construction, all I could find was a rust pile, the size of a London double decker bus, of discarded fighter machine guns & 3 concrete steps, leading to a faded sign saying "officers club".

Karna Cope was even more overtaken by nature. Once a huge repair base for US patrol boats, most of the cement slabs were broken up by rampant flora, & all that indicated a really large wartime base was a 4" steel pipe spewing water gravity fed from a dam up in the hills into the lagoon.

Fragile nature, what utter rot.

Nature always wins, it's people who lose !

The snow flake generation produce such idiotic and insulting ideologies such as pushed by 10 year old know it all schoolgirls who protest against coal while carrying their iphones. People thinks the tactics of speaking lies often enough make it true. Has not worked for the evolution fantasy or its sister the gw fraud.

Dear Hasbeen,

All over the world and especially in the less
developed societies, the pressure of the
human population and its technologies is
devastating natural ecosystems.

This pressure takes many forms - urbanisation and
highway construction; transformation of virgin land
into farmland, chemical pollution of fresh water; dredging
and landfill in coastal areas, uncontrolled hunting and
poaching especially African wildlife, deliberate and accidental
poisoning of wildlife with pesticides; disruption of natural
predator-prey- relationships; strangulation of millions of
birds and fish with discarded styrofoam pellets, plastic
bags, and other synthetic flotsam, dam construction and
irrigation; and massive deforestation.

Our behavior is having a devastating effect on the other
life forms on this planet, in fact we're having a
catastrophic effect on other species.

The breathtaking diversity of species has evolved in
delicate and precarious balance over many millions of years.
Most of the plants and animals with which we share the
earth have been here a great deal longer than we have.
For a fleeting moment in planetary history, our
technology has given us domain over them, in awe, respect,
and humility, we might just let them be?

cont'd ...

Wouldn't it be nice?

Hasbeen,
There are bits of nature that are fragile and bits of nature that are not. Arid environments tend to be the most fragile on land, though other environments can be fragile because of erosion (which does NOT mean that all environments subject to erosion are fragile).

Rainforest environments have an undeserved reputation for fragility, but they're usually quite robust.

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runner,
WTF is wrong with carrying an iPhone while protesting against coal?

>People thinks the tactics of speaking lies often enough make it true.
It's certainly fooled you into thinking the lies are true!

>Has not worked for the evolution fantasy or its sister the gw fraud.
Two cases in point:
firstly, evolution is a phenomenon not a fantasy. The theory fits the observed facts, but you don't care about the observed facts because they're incompatible with your unshakable belief that God micromanages everything. So you reject the facts and go for the lies instead!

Secondly, the gw fraud is the notion that increasing atmospheric CO2 levels is NOT causing the planet to heat up. In reality, observations clearly show a warming trend, and we know that greenhouse gases including CO2 absorb and reradiate infrared, warming the planet's surface. But if everyone accepts the truth, it threatens the commercial interest of the neocons So the neocons shrewdly claimed that global warming was a religion, so that all the gullible Christians (like yourself) were fooled into thinking that accepting the truth was evil, and the gullible among their fellow atheists were fooled into thinking it was illogical.

What will it take to get you to accept the truth?