runner,

No one is saying that they don't count.

Are we all done playing gender wars now people?

If you want a better result than previous you're going to have to sit down together (both men and women) to work out the right policy.

Failure 1: It's not going to work if you have the policy written just by the women.
That's just going to have the result of alienating men further;
- Which means more men will feel like they're backed further into a corner meaning they'll be more likely to lash out; and you won't solve anything.

Right now the policy to fix this has been: Failure 2. Try to resolve the conflict by turning women into men and men into women, effectively blend us all into a single species;
Failure 3. Treat the person in the relationship who is physically stronger and naturally more confrontational as the one who is ALWAYS in the wrong;

It's not working.

If something isn't working, then you're going about it the wrong way.

There won't be any progress whilst your 'experts' are blocking the way forward.

If you start out with a man hating attitude, you're guaranteed a man hating outcome.

Personally I think we need somehow to convince young people not to jump into relationships with people they barely know, and certainly don’t have children with hem before you are sure the relationship is going to work.
Being forced to get married or live together because of pregnancy should not occur in this age of advanced contraception.
Sometimes I have listened to hate filled conversations between couples after they have split up and wondered how did they ever conceive children who overhear.
And I hate to say it, but I have found in general that the women were the most vindictive.
And whilst I abhor all forms of violence, including the domestic kind, I have seen men literally forced into lashing out by being subjected to a barrage of verbal abuse and denigration, frequently in front of the children.

Dear AC,

That's why input from everybody is so important.
Not only from politicians, lawyers, and judges.
Community voices - male, female, children, also
need to contribute and be heard.

Dear Big Nana,

I worked for the Department of Community Services
with the child protection services being just down the hall
from my office. It broke my heart reading their reports.
And today we have an even more diverse group of people
engaging with family law. As pointed out earlier
there are those with disabilities and mental health concerns,
those impacted with substance dependencies, parties of
varying cultural backgrounds, those with language
barriers. These evolving diversities will warrant a
progressive legal system that responds to human needs.

On top of this is the increasing diversity of
families, changing gender roles,
same-sex relationships, surrogacy, and grand
parents as primary carers.

This diversity could never have been anticipated when the
family law system was last over hauled and today we can't
predict what future family units may look like.

So yes, people should be cautious prior to entering into
a relationship and having children. Future law reform is
inevitable because try as we might we are never going to
arrive at a perfect system - it must change with its
people and society.

Foxy. Society has outgrown it but more than that - sadly there is not legal solution that is
wholly capable of fixing what are in fact social problems

The Family Law System that is in place now is infinitely better that what was in place pre-75, believe me. It was designed to end the Legal Corruption that was inherit ant in that System. What has happened is the Lawyers have, in time, learnt how to manipulate the ‘’system” for Profit.

Brock: The Family Court making decisions in secret without the litigants knowledge.

Oh yeah. About a week before the hearing the Lawyers for both sides & the Judge get together & decide the outcome.
The Hearing is just a farce to make it look good. As explained to me by a retired Magistrate. Most Trials are like this. Things like the Jury, Precedents, what evidence is & is not allowed etc. It’s to save Court time.

Foxy: I think that broken bones, smashed faces, - dead bodies, eye witnesses and doctor's and police
reports speak for themselves. As do the current statistics

Are you intermating that this is the case in every Divorce or Separation? It sure sounds like it to me. Current Static’s state that more women (mothers) commit infanticide than fathers (fathers.) There are more Drug addicted mothers as well.

Runner: you forget the number of men who neck themselves Foxy. They also count.

Exactly.

Foxy: No one is saying that they don't count.

Just conveniently overlooked.

Big Nana: And I hate to say it, but I have found in general that the women were the most vindictive.

Oh yeah!

Foxy: That's why input from everybody is so important. Not only from politicians, lawyers, and judges.
Community voices - male, female, children, also need to contribute and be heard.

When it comes to the actual hearing there “Must” be no legal People involved in any form. The consultations must be only made by Councillors or people trained in this area. One proviso. No-one connected with the Feminist Industry or have a bias against Males be allowed anywhere near the process. After an fair & reasonable agreement has been reached then it can go to a Judge for ratification.