Belly, your definitions are not clear.

The Left supported by the views of the UN wish to demonise mining and processing as a bad thing because it makes few people wealthy. So burning carbon is identified as the cause of climate change by the left. However carbon is the basis of all living tissue. However changes to climate is part of a natural process, not a human process.

From processing steel and minerals by the burning of coal carbon is released, so carbon is the new demon. They want to control all wealth and place people under one governing body and one world view - Marxism. Climate change fanatics only focus on coal, oil and gas because it is used to process steel and create electrical energy. The Left want to control over wealth creation, because the wealth is only amassed by a few.

There is changes happening in the Earth climate and it is minimally caused by carbon emissions. If people recycled properly all their disposables, the oceans and land would not be polluted. But that is not changing the climate, it is changing the health of the oceans, air and land. It has only been recent that man has learned to place scrubbers on particulate emissions from burning. However large part of humanity still pollute waterways and land in ignorance or laziness of their behaviour.

Hey Belly,

The right invented the term 'fake news' in response to the corporate media selling fake news.
The left and the corporate media then appropriated the term for themselves;
- to draw attention away from the hometruths the right were exposing.

This is what the left like to do, and it's Hillary Clinton's MO especially.

- Accuse others of doing the stuff that you're doing -

Hey Belly,
- A bit more info on my last comment;
Pretty sure that kind of thinking came from Sail Alinsky's 'Rule's for Radicals';
- Which is what Hillary Clinton wrote her college thesis on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals

AC rubbish truth is fake news is an invention of the right, glad to see it has you confused, fake news was invented to confuse
Josephus,from post one I asked this thread not be about cause, not changing that to suit your wish to divert it
We have established the climate is changing
We see some bad points in today media, two surf clubs in different states lost beaches
Now another cause can be put, why build so close to beaches
' 50 meters lost in the last two years by one
Some growers are letting fruit trees die, because they have no water,[ABC Landline] other are [in different areas] planting new crops because they now have it

Some growers are letting fruit trees die, because they have no water
Belly,
You really need to think of the words you're using. Farmers don't let fruit trees die, the trees die because the farmers can't get water.

indy? you tell me why a current third generation farmer went on landline and told us he is walking off the farm
Letting the trees die, because he has no water, the water he had has dried up and his license to irrigate taken Away
Not near the only farmer in his area letting the fruit trees die because they do not have water'
His words not mine you can not put the trees to sleep and waken them when/if it rains they die