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Heard anything about a large scale day care fraud in SW Sydney

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Just read , on another blog about a large day care fraud in SW Sydney and am wondering if anyone here heard about it. Apparently it involves some $750 million per year and 40-50 have been arrested. Some 150 familys involved in giving false details and claiming benefits.

I also wonder why it has not been all over the media, from last week.

I would appreciate a news link if some one can supply.
Posted by HenryL, Monday, 16 September 2019 2:10:09 PM
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Hi HenryL

I found this dated 9th May.

Syndicate created day-care centres that didn't care for children: police
http://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/syndicate-created-day-care-centres-that-didn-t-care-for-children-police-20190509-p51lkr.html

There are some other articles on the topic if you google 'sydney daycare fraud', though this is the first that I've heard about it.

Many of the articles in the search results quote a 4 million dollar figure;
However I did find mention of 750 million here:
http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/100-sydney-childcare-centres-scamming-750-million-dollars-002827424.html

One of the pictures in this article shows what appears to be a woman wearing a hijab.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 16 September 2019 9:02:16 PM
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For more info try Googling Strike Force Mercury

or
http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/6114013/illawarra-property-raided-as-police-dismantle-daycare-fraud-syndicate/

http://thesector.com.au/2019/05/09/no-place-for-fraud-in-our-sector-fdca-says-in-light-of-18-arrests-yesterday/
Posted by HenryL, Monday, 16 September 2019 9:11:10 PM
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AC,
Thanks for that, you could also try the link below. I would not be surprized by the Hyjab as that area houses many muslims. This story apparently was there last week, what I don't understand is why no media has run with it and what other stories are we not told?

http://www.acic.gov.au/media-centre/joint-media-releases/family-day-care-fraud-syndicate-dismantled
Posted by HenryL, Monday, 16 September 2019 9:27:54 PM
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HenryL

If it was the Catholic church or a Christian church the abc would of run headlines for 6 months. Because it was muslims nothing to see.
Posted by runner, Monday, 16 September 2019 9:41:01 PM
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One thing I liked about this is that the police seized all of their assets as proceeds of crime. Good! That's the best thing to do to this type of human rubbish - hit them where it really hurts in their hip pocket. I wonder how many $$$ from their fraudulent activities ended up in the Middle East supporting terrorist groups.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 12:19:36 AM
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Henry L I have said this in print
*These people, every one of them, must serve time in prison*
And in every case it can be done must be deported
Now yes me the defender of Muslims thinks that, these things harm their faith
Maybe, as extremes in all faiths do, looking at the permission in their holy book, to lie to none believers
Getting several hundred dollars a week, to claim [untruly] their kids attend that place
Sydney police say the security is even tighter than outlaw motor cyclist have
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 6:43:54 AM
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Henry L media in NSW had headlines for two days, you will find it was a one hundred percent Muslim thing
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 6:46:36 AM
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Belly,
I disagree, in my opinion the whole scandal has been kept quiet. I read two Sydney papers, on line, every day and have seen nothing about it. Where has been all the commentators like Bolt and the radio shock jocks. What about 4 corners and the 7.30 report. There has not been a whisper of such a large scam involving hundreds of people. No the media has been to engrossed in persecuting George Pell, to the extent that they changed the law to allow him to be convicted on nothing more than accusations. He now sits in jail without one skerrick of evidence against him. While all the time this gigantic fraud has been taking place by hundreds of people and millions of our taxpayers dollars.

I agree that the perpetrators of this fraud should be deported, but that is not enough. There needs to be a complete stop to muslim immigration and refugee intake. They have shown since fool Fraser that they are detrimental to the well being of Australia and have no liking for us or our society. Stopping muslim entry would be the single most beneficial act this government could undertake.
Posted by HenryL, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 9:45:23 AM
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I understand that some of these crooks could be multicultural immigrants, 'refugees' even', who are supposed to be so, so vital to oure economy. In fact, some people reckon they are better than those of who have been here for a couple of hundred years, doing the hard yards for these bludgers to roll up to rob us.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 10:04:03 AM
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Dear HenryL,

Just image how many Middle Eastern peoples will be pouring into Australia as refugees if a war breaks out with Iran. But don't worry, it'll be alright, especially with ScuMo and Dutton protecting you. (PS LOL)
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 10:33:01 AM
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Dear HenryL,

What on earth are you on about? This is months old news, why are you expecting to see it in the news over the last week? It had wide coverage when the story broke in May and the fact that you have gotten yourself confused thinking it occurred this week and that some conspiracy was preventing it being reported on it all on you mate.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 11:13:27 AM
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Yeah, they did a good job of keeping it quiet, no headlines, no names and no pack drill. Should be headlines now and weekly updates showing the names of those arrested. No doubt certain groups get preferential treatment by the media and our justice system.

These frauds are carried out by the same groups the greens and other fools say we should have more of. That's diversity for you. That is right, we need 10 year old kids sleeping on the streets, thieving and selling sexual favours like in third world countries. Not just one or two, hundreds of them, just ask google there is plenty on the internet,you don't have to look very hard. This is the diversity they want us to have. Aint multiculturalism wonderful.
Posted by HenryL, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 12:14:08 PM
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Deasr HenryL,

you wrote;

"they did a good job of keeping it quiet"

No they didn't, it was all over the news when it first happened.

The latest arrests were not the principals but rather parents who had given their children's identities to be used as part of the scam. The small fry.

Why are you now bleating on about child prostitution? It is just incoherent rubbish.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 12:25:07 PM
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NO ONE kept it quite Henry L!
My comment [posted on facebook] received dozens of reply's
Head line news in SMH Nine online Sky, every channel'
Not hidden and NOT THE FIRST SUCH GROUP fraud in this area, almost always by middle eastern folk has been seen more than twice in my state
MULTIPLE of millions has been lost
No keep it quite conspiracy exists except in your head
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 1:03:30 PM
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I blame politicians and beaurecrats Belly;
For the half-assed management of the nation in which they requested to govern.

'Policy' these days shouldn't even be considered actual policy;
From now on I might start referring to 'policy' as 'swiss cheese';
- It's ALL ill thought out, has not been foolproofed for flaws and misuse.

They requested the right to govern.
We were dumb enough to let them.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 4:16:37 PM
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AC a day will come when we find out some politicians are involved in this industry
And that may be the reason things, that is what this group are, get away with robbing us of millions we could have used on some thing else
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 5:07:18 PM
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Don't worry, it'll be alright.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 5:30:08 PM
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Some of them were paraded on TV a week or two ago as they are presently
appearing in court.
They undertake these large frauds because they do not consider
it to be stealing. Every non moslem is required by the Koran to pay the
Jizyah tax to moslems. Any moslem can demand it from any unbeliever.
They had a shopfront office advertising their company for appearance sake.
They were even in Woolongong where they had a branch office.

One moslem on a stealing charge even claimed jizyah in court.
They do not believe they are guilty of a crime.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 7:35:31 PM
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Dear Bazz,

You really are speaking utter rot old chap. Time for a Bex and a good lie down me thinks.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 8:18:37 PM
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More evidence than this is not needed to prove the failure of secularism, to control disparate religious groups alive and flourisming in our population.

Religion has little respect for secular rule. The more authoritarian it becomes, the greater the hatred for it!

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 10:22:00 PM
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Q:

How does the algorithm decide in all it knowingness, to pass before my eyes an advertisement for a Muslim dating site.
I'm impressed!

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 10:31:02 PM
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Come on!ok use the fact their culture may be reason they are pure filth
Any one stealing from what is a form of Social welfare is pure filth
Blame the fact they are just thieves
NOT that they are Muslims
I tend to blame privatization , even ex cop Duttons wife feeds from this basket of poorly overseen cash
Just maybe we, in the end, can blame very poor weak in fact, overseeing of how our money is spent
After all if it was run properly these filth would not have been able to see holes in it
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 7:17:47 AM
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Belly
At times you come perilously close to the truth. In this instance the old saying holds true; it's "the economy stupid".

The extent of the "gift economy", which ebbs and flows on various levels, totally unacknowledged under our noses, is all-pervasive.

The raison d'etre of a politicians motivivation is greed. They are a breed!
In their greedy little clutches lay the wealth of a nation.
The beggars at their door are lobbyists.

These beggars are clothed in riches of silks and satin. All this while the real beggars, (rubbish men, the unemployed and other similar flotsam and jetsam), starve for want of compassion.

It's silly picking fault with the rejected. Focus!

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 8:49:53 AM
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Belly,
This fraud received little press coverage and only for a short while. Like the Bankstown gang rapes 20 years ago it was kept quiet.

The police then were alarmed by the number of rapes and attempted to warn the public, however the press conspired and did not publish the warning because they thought it may affect the then upcoming Olympics in Sydney. So the public were not warned. A further conspiracy now is the agreement between the major parties NOT to publicly discuss or debate immigration issues. If the fraud had received adequate publicity there would have been street protests and calls for deportation and banning of muslim immigration. No, Islam is a protected species.

Wait and see. Those involved will only get token sentences, like all refugees do when they break our laws. Armchair Critic is right, it is the fault of the pollys, they are as weak as water. A decent justice system would impose decent sentences, including deportation, but the pollys are busy chasing muslim votes.
Posted by HenryL, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 10:49:16 AM
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Henry L we walk on far different sides of the political streets but you are KIDDING your self
Do you live in NSW? it was splashed around and ignited a rage in me equal to yours
They are filth, many more are like them, a former Prime Minister, in the 1970,s left unchecked Lebanese enter in great numbers
Mostly born thieves who STILL export stolen cars back to that country in container loads
Christian Lebanese
I again, demand every one we can remove by law be deported every mother and father who let their kids be used FIRST
True, it was never hidden we have told you, myself and others, believe us you are up that creek trying tom prove otherwise
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 11:56:00 AM
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While we have been talking about the degree of coverage this got we have ignored a truth
Yes such fraud exists, we hear about it often
We too see middle eastern people involved often
GOVERNMENT/public servants, are supposed to police this
They do not
Why, we need to hold them to account as so much fraud in our welfare system from old age care to every thing in between it and child care why
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 4:34:51 PM
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Hey HenryL
I think maybe the media has become politically correct in its reporting;
That's is they don't want to play up the Muslim aspect of this issue so they will play the whole thing down a notch.
If it was a story on some racist nationalist that said he didn't like Asians or Muslims or something mundane like that;
Then they would play that up a notch.

Reporters are victims of PC culture too.
Everything is PC.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 4:36:13 PM
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[Cont.]

Think about it.

A story about Muslims doing something wrong might 'incite hatred'.
So PC requires that it must be played down.
Whereas a nationalist saying he doesn't like Asians or Muslims.
This is a 'social justice' issue, so it must be highlighted.

PC is LAW
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 4:41:23 PM
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AGAIN! AC you too try to hide the truth and in doing so rev up anti Muslim feelings
The thing got page one headlines
No one tried to hide it
You will again see big bright headlines when the grubs appear in court
This is a headline issue
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 19 September 2019 6:12:49 AM
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Belly,
You often use the word TRUTH, so why not face the truth now and admit the muslims will never fit into our society and should not be allowed in. They have been a pain to us ever since Fraser allowed them in. In my view equally as bad as the Labor governments welcome mat. Morison was a good immigration minister but now has gone all soft and multicultural. The importation of these no hopers that desire to destroy our country is a direct result of the multicultural policy. Any fool can see they are pioneers for Islam and they make no secret of that.

Belly why not acknowledge the obvious TRUTH.
Posted by HenryL, Thursday, 19 September 2019 11:04:48 AM
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Henry L hold your breath, stamp your feet, even scream at me if it helps
This much I agree with, the use of the term *multi culture* in stead of *integration* is blindingly stupid
And yes SOME MUSLIMS should never have come here,every one involved in this for a start
But this seems to be a Social experiment, aimed at one day enforcing one world on us
If so it will be no Socialist driven thing but a wealth holders group plan
Well reported, not hidden as you claim, these things need to serve time in prison then be sent back
Until people of any faith can no longer force a growing group who understand *No God ever existed* to give them respect the world will never be one
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 19 September 2019 11:54:16 AM
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Hey Belly,
"AGAIN! AC you too try to hide the truth and in doing so rev up anti Muslim feelings
The thing got page one headlines"

Stay calm.

1. I was the first person to add links to the story on this thread;
- dated months back, so I know there was not a specific media blackout;

- Such as a D-notice in the UK.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSMA-Notice#Australia

Check it, I added the links.

I'm not trying to hide the truth Belly
I'm more about the other side - exposing it.

Stop trying to frame everything around your own brainwashed PC ideology.
My point had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with 'revving up anti-muslim feelings'.
If you consider that it does, then obviously that's just how you perceive it because in my mind there was no malice and it was unintentional;

My point was about PC culture having a 'type of set of rules' that says 'this issue is a divisive one and goes against the narrative of the '2030' future were trying to build', whilst the other is a social justice issue which needs to be highlighted in order to promote the narrative of the '2030' future we're trying to build .

And that exposes a problem in an of itself, that you jumped on the useful idiot PC bandwagon, called me out with PC brainwashing ideology, and missed he point that I ACTUALLY tried to make.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 19 September 2019 11:57:36 AM
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