Foxy,

I also read the article on the lack of any "gay gene" and what struck me is the obvious lack of understanding of genetics by the author. While many of the public assume that human characteristics are determined by a single gene the reality is that most characteristics are determined by a combination of multiple genes.

For example, there are about 20 genes which when some of them occur the combinations can produce ADHD, OCD, dyslexia, and in extreme cases bipolar and schizophrenia all to different levels. The same applies to height skin colour, weight etc.

That there are a combination of genes that can point to sexual attraction means that there is a clear link to genetics as a causal factor and also explains why same sex attraction is unlikely to die out as other combinations of these genes may produce individuals with qualities far more beneficial to the continuation of the species.

Dear NNS,

You write;

“If there's a gay gene, then homosexuality can be passed off as natural, normal, or at least conveniently something no one has a choice about and should be tolerated and accepted. If there is no gay gene that changes the things quite a bit. Then all of the sudden the issue of being gay and having the issues that are part of that are no longer just passed off as "just born that way." “

Did you even read the bloody article mate, or at least comprehend what you put into your original post?

It quite plainly reinforces the fact that there are genetic markers for homosexual attraction. Earlier studies relied on twin studies and family links to make the connection but this is by far the biggest step forward in showing a genetic component for same sex attraction.

I suspect given the age of the participants (as acknowledged by the authors) there will be a bias because of people who are same sex attracted but have chosen not to come out. I would be interested to see the age breakdown.

Just as with global warming you are choosing to see what you want in the science. This is your political beliefs coming to the fore and you should really work on putting those aside when you assess what studies like these are telling us.

Dear "individual"

Trust me sunshine, we would love you to leave us alone. However after reading the hate-laden comments on this thread I fear that may be some time off. Guess we will just have to be patient until you lot all die out and are replaced by a more compassionate, humane and tolerant society.

Meanwhile, expect me to continue being secure within myself and celebrating that with other members of my community and to point out the hypocrisy and cherry picking of their sacred text that many so-called christians engage in, in order to justify their position (to themselves).

SR,

I question the suggestion that these people are "normal".
It seems that if the medical profession has a set of indicators to ensure a new born is "normal"and healthy, anything which falls outside of that checklist is therefore by it's very structure, "abnormal".
We have a "road map" which clearly delineates the boundaries of what is normal, is the majority of society, today.
And the majority are "straight".
And this is confirmed by the fact that the overwhelming majority of people are the same in make up and form, so it is that we are n the "norm".
Anything else is not "normal"!
When it comes to these "beings", they are clearly not "normal", so I am perplexed as to why some want to see them as normal.
I had no problem with them all my life, till they started abusing and insulting us and making absolutely outrageous demands, all the while insisting they were being discriminated against.
So if I incur the wrath of the sympathisers, so be it.
I'm not the odd one out.
They are.

“Meanwhile, expect me to continue being secure within myself and celebrating that with other members of my community and to point out the hypocrisy and cherry picking of their sacred text that many so-called christians engage in, in order to justify their position (to themselves).
Posted by Aries54, Monday, 16 September 2019 10:35:20 AM

That’s the way to go: keep it in your community and don’t press it on the rest of us. You need to remember that you are a very tiny percentage of the population. Like all minorities, the more attention you seek, the more hostility you will experience.

AlTRAV,

Of course homosexuality is not normal. There is something wrong with the wiring of these people. However, we have to accept that there are people like that - and I'm not talking about posers who claim to be that way out of faddishness - and let them get on with their lives the best they can. It's only the loud and nasty who are a problem for society. It is the attempt at normalisation via SSM that puts me off. And here, it is the vicious straight Left that is to blame. They are using homosexuals for their own ends.

If Aries is genuine, and hangs around, he might be able to put things straight for everyone.