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'No gay gene.' Does new study have faults or hold merit?

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Instead of just ignoring the private habits of a very few people and leaving them to it, the rabble rousers and dim voters have institutionalised homosexuality and denegrated marriage. There is not much point in talking about it. What is done is done; the West is on the way out, and there will be a reckoning, just as occurred in the past with the self-destruction of the Roman Empire and other ancient civilisations. Perversion, denigration of culture through multiculturalism, mass immigration and self-hatred will undo us, sooner rather than later.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 15 September 2019 11:41:47 PM
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To all and sundry,

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Whatever the cause or contributing factors that determine our sexual orientation (I leave that to the psycho-socio-biologists), it is obviously a natural phenomenon.

Homosexuality is a perfectly natural phenomenon, just like heterosexuality. There is no such thing in nature as ‘the norm of the heterosexual union’. Both heterosexual and homosexual unions are ‘normal’. As Petter Boeckman, a zoologist at the Norwegian Natural History Museum of the University of Oslo, has pointed out: ‘No species has been found in which homosexual behaviour has not been shown to exist ... a part of the animal kingdom is hermaphroditic, truly bisexual. For them, homosexuality is not an issue.’ Boeckman observes social advantages to the free expression of homosexual behaviour and adds: ‘It has been observed that the homosexual couple are often better at raising the young than heterosexual couples.’:

http://pactiss.org/2011/11/17/1500-animal-species-practice-homosexuality/

Religion historically regards homosexual sex acts as sinful, based essentially on an erroneous understanding of ‘natural law’ (the law of nature). Religious dogma is constantly proven wrong in its interpretation of nature by scientific research.

Homosexual behaviour has never been noted as a possible cause of the diminution or disappearance of any animal or plant species. There is no objective reason to discriminate against either heterosexual or homosexual behaviour as regards the adoption and raising of children.

Parthenogenesis or so-called “virgin birth” (when animals reproduce without a mate) also exists in nature. Female Australian giant prickly stick insects, for example, can reproduce by mating with males if they like or give birth without any male interference if they prefer :

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20151216-virgin-births-are-happening-everywhere

So far as we human beings are concerned, the role of the State should be limited to the public – not the private – sphere, as per Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights.

That said, I totally agree with those who find the annual Gay Pride parade and similar public demonstrations particularly shocking and offensive. It does a great disservice to the cause of homosexuals who have difficulty being accepted and suffer the mockery, discrimination and even hatred of much of society.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Monday, 16 September 2019 2:25:50 AM
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BP,

I find your last paragraph to be the most relevant and informative of your last submission.
Submitting hermaphrodites as an example of normality, is fallacious at best, in poor taste at the very least.
Your concept of normal is not in keeping with the society's expectations and definitions.
I care not what some obscure academic contends, I base my opinions on what IS and not what ISN'T.
Such life forms may emulate that of homo-sapiens, but unfortunately for them they do not conduct themselves like what they appear.
As far as the so called experts suggesting that such individuals are normal in nature, is just a continuation of this fallacy.
It is much easier to accept a convenient lie than an inconvenient truth.
It's embarrassing and these experts lack simple social skills like courage, so they find it more comfortable to seek out a scenario whereby they come across as a "good guy" and don't have to face those difficult questions.
There is no way queers can ever be considered as "normal".
We only have to look around, do we consider midgets, albino's, and other mis-fits as "normal"?
NO!
So then, I reject any attempt at anyone trying to justify queers as being normal or natural.
They are a "broken" form of homo-sapiens, and that's it.
If they were the absolute and overwhelming majority, they would be the norm and we straight people would be the abnormal, just like they are today.
And as for the raising of children, look I can only assume by the language and theme of the posting that the author must be a queer themselves, if not then they are at very least a sympathiser, and therefore biased.
Children must absolutely NEVER be exposed to these mis-fits of nature, thereby saying to the kids that it's OK to be queer, creating a situation that a child should NEVER be placed in, and possibly forcing them to question their own sexuality, when it should NEVER have been an issue from the start.
Gene or no gene, they must accept that they're different, and NOT NORMAL!
Posted by ALTRAV, Monday, 16 September 2019 3:38:06 AM
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To Banjo Peterson.

Being gay isn't normal. Whether it should be accepted, tolerated, and encouraged doesn't matter on the basis of it being normal. Normal as far as I can tell means to be common or somewhat common. However should homosexuality be encouraged? Regardless of being normal or not, there are huge hurdles if a person actually looks at homosexuality. Drug use and alcoholism are at a higher rate then the rest of society. By encouraging kids and adults to be actively gay it encourages them to be part of that culture. Same with a higher rate of narcissism, open relationships and just loose pants in general harming strong foundations in long term relationships, as well as issues with pedophilia. Higher rates of Depression, anxiety, and suicide.

Where your right is that Christianity condemns homosexuality as a sin. In the past, based on trusting Christian scripture, I held a private conclusion that if a person is gay the best option is to be celibate. However now that I've come into contact with several homosexuals, I would recommend celibacy for other reasons as well, and to recommend them to steer clear from gay gatherings like gay bars and gay pride parades. Keep the poison in those communities away from the person.

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Monday, 16 September 2019 7:28:50 AM
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If homosexuality wasn't as uncommon as it is then the negative factors in that population wouldn't have to be at such a high rate. Unfortunately, even if the unhealthy aspects weren't a common traits among homosexuality, having a smaller population to look for to be actively gay means more exposure to the negative aspects and more of an influence on the gay person.

Going back to a change in society, I would say that if we could encourage a positive attitude towards being single and celibate, instead of settling for bad relationships, then I think many of the issues poisoning homosexual populations will lessen. Strive to be celibate because the alternate is harmful to the gay in multiple ways. After all if genetics isn't to blame, and gays too often don't think they have a choice on their sexual attraction, then the blame rests on the rest of us. On society as a whole.

It's about time that instead of just accepting homosexuality, and watch as more harm comes from it; to instead figure out what's causing the harms, or what are the environmental influences to create homosexuals. Either try and face and fix the harms in gay communities, or try and bandage the societal influence to not encourage more homosexuality.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Monday, 16 September 2019 7:29:37 AM
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encourage a positive attitude towards being single and celibate, instead of settling for bad relationships,
Not_Now.Soon,
There'd be no need if women were less demanding ;-)
Posted by individual, Monday, 16 September 2019 8:08:24 AM
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