drug and alcohol medical doctors,
diver dan,
Once these Doctors live of the earnings from their patients instead off our Taxes, I'll start taking them serious ! Until then, they should refrain from offering advise that only ever ends up lucrative for them !

Well individual, I'm one hundred and ten percent with Lambie on this one.
Let the government drug test whoever. After all, we have random testing on he side of the road which includes us all. But picking off a select group justifies explanation, not excuse.
Lambie offers the green light if politicians are willing to be work drug tested too.
I'd love to see that innovation. Especially alcohol testing of politicians.
We deserve a country to be run on sober decision making.

But the question here is the punitive action against those of the cohort unemployed, who refuse the test.
This part of it makes a mockery of the deal. I agree.
An explanation is in order.

Dan

Dear individual,

You write;

“Once these Doctors live of the earnings from their patients instead off our Taxes”

Are you really one of those who want to trash medicare? To me that is unAustralian and should be condemned if that is the case.

You write;

“You need to learn that the moment you give an inch, the kind of people we're talking about will take a mile in the blink of an eye”

How on earth are they getting an 'inch'? Those refusing a drug test should be treated as though they have failed one and put on a cashless card. End of story. Instead they and presumably their families will be stripped of welfare payments. Why are you okay with this?

These 'people' are human beings. The fact that when the economy is good we have far fewer people on things like Newstart shows that most are willing to work if they can find it. These vary from retrenched Mums and Dads to kids who have left school and seeking their first job but find themselves hard up against a tight market. Now each and every one of them will be drug tested periodically, at whatever expense involved, just to attend to a small minority. How is this a good idea?

diver dan,
When people fall onto hard times we are morally obliged to help them but I draw the line when people consciously decide not to seek employment & do drugs instead & complement their stupidity by paying hundreds if not thousands of Dollars for tatoos !
I think Politicians need to be made far more accountable when they cause unemployment as do Unions. Drug test them every week. That'd create a new industry in itself.
I have contributed enough Tax, far more than I'll be costing in Pension ! Let those who lived by negative gearing fork out for a change !

Are you really one of those who want to trash medicare?
SteeleRedux,
Where on Earth did you get that brain wave from ? Did you have beer with Belly ?
I want to trash the waste of Tax dollars on drug abusers & senior bureaucrats & the Negative gearing brigade.

as for "These 'people' are human beings." I never said they weren't, just that they're not good ones !
I have never advocated against decent people falling on hard times, only bludgers. What will you ask next, give terrorists a Taxpayer funded Superannuation ?

indy 35 years ago, small country town, me on holidays mid year
Worked 12 hour days, often called back middle of night [fatal road smashes]
Boss warned me take your leave or it will be lost, so took 4 weeks
Back to that country town, shopping, mum still alivev then but could not do the shopping
Two nasty old women [hard right area] spoke openly of me being a dole bludger
Any relation?
Bloke over the road, told me he thought he should hang himself, no job no hope,and it would be best for the kids