'I see no problem making drug tests mandatory for everyone, including pensioners. '

come on Hasbeen. With all due respect for pensioners many are taking up to 5 or 6 different prescribed medications a day. My parents in their late eighties have about 6 tablets each for so many different things (high blood pressure, diabeties, pain killers, and whatver else the doctors prescribe). Imagine what the tests would show up.

I take 15 tablets a day, have been random drug tested often all clear every time
But Hasbeen!
What type of world do you want?
I agreed while at work, with drug testing, in some cases it is for every one
Including office people [coal mining]
As it should be, some unions [left wing] say no
But driving a huge coal mining thing is every bit as dangerous as any car, if you can not drive drunk or drugged you should not be able to work that way
Fix the issue, true must attend must work must be paid minimum wage work for the dole for all unemployed then'
Drug tests for workplace safety reasons

Indy I started full time work at age 13 worked till 66... seemingly committed a crime in your eyes,
Belly,
I am at a loss why you say the things like that last sentence ? I had exactly the same working life as you.
What is it with you that you always bring up truth yet you steadfastly refuse to acknowledge truth when it comes to asking people to muster some discipline & decency.
Drug testing is a must these days. It's got nothing to do with medication. They can always show the tester the prescription ! Unless of course you believe that some moron on dope gets his hits prescribed by a Doctor ?
No-one's saying that alcohol abuse is any better but even alcoholics still function whereas a doped up moron can't think !
If you could only get yourself to see the massive benefit a National Service would be to our society. Imagine the dope morons loitering on Centrelink steps reduced to none at the stroke of a pen.
Several months out in the countryside pushing wheel barrows & swinging picks & shovels will soon make reasonable humans out of snowflakes !

Individual I take some of that back, in truth we know many shared our early start to working life
Too that current legislation says today's youth will work till 70
I truly despise that young bloke, truly
In my mind he looked ok for some kind of work, cleaning his flat for a start
You know as I do, people in our youth worked with very real disability's no pension for them'
I will try a thread telling of my view we can improve on this

Belly,
We really need to concentrate on changing this entitlement mentality. The Authorities need to wake up too. The people who are entitled to Welfare & old age Pension & the genuinely unemployed are denied their entitlements yet the sit around lazies & drug abusers get it literally handed to them, they almost don't even have to ask.
yes, we can keep raving on about the lazies but the REAL problem with Welfare fraud etc are those bureaucrats who control the wWelfare system. They're the real culprits !
Look at Centrelink, you can't even contact them for crying out loud ! I'm trying to get my Medicare card renewed, you think I can call them or email them ? No ! EVERYTHING is email based these days yet if you need to contact them they give you a postal address. I followed the instructions on their website & it won't accept the details from my present card ??
See what I mean ?

So who pays for the universal drugs testing? The employer, the tax payer or the employee?